Seems this is a topic without any sort of set date or final plan so lets give it a home here as it's bound to run and run. Tobias Grüner AMuS @tgruener 1m1 minute ago Ferrari engine proposal rejected. New 1000hp engine for 2017 based on V6 turbo + MGU-K & H with increased fuel flow. http://ams.to/10e Translated from German... The session of the Formula 1 Strategy Group on 5 February in Paris brought few concrete results. Only postponement on many issues. As expected, the five teams were privileged Ferrari , Mercedes, McLaren, Red Bull, Williams and the new member of the Force India not agree on the key issues on the Formula 1 of the future. Not even on the number of development tokens that Honda should get after 28 February. It now wants to wait and see the date, to see how muchMercedes , Ferrari and Renault left blank. Then renegotiated. McLaren boss Ron Dennis wants the highest value of tokens, the opponents to reserve for the remainder of the season. Currently Honda gets only the average value. 1,000 horsepower engine is based on the 2017 V6 hybrid Bernie Ecclestone to get his 1,000-horsepower engine ruckus, but not before 2017 and then based on the current V6 turbos with two electric motors MGU-K and MSU-H. But then would come the unloved flow limitation. The proposal from Ferrari to switch to a V8 biturbo with KERS caught on only at Renault. Honda and Mercedes rejected it outright and threatened with a withdrawal from Formula 1, the engine concept should be further amended.The current hybrid formula was introduced in 2014. After some heated discussions also Ferrari head chief Sergio Marchionne could be convinced that the transition would be suicide to a new engine formula. A new construction would cost only money again. The manufacturer would then be asked within three years twice vigorously to checkout. And neither Ferrari, nor Renault had a guarantee that they would suddenly go back to the top. The chance that the persecutors of the current Mercedes engine catch is, in any case greater. Mercedes can prove to be best in class less increase than his opponents. Because they are already closer to the optimum. Formula 1 car of the future is not 2016 Also in Formula 1 car of the future, there is no green light. Red Bull andMcLaren submitted drawings, as one might imagine an aggressive style. The proposals were received. But when Red Bull team boss Christian Horner demanded corresponding changes already in 2016 in conjunction with Bernie Ecclestone, the competition went to the alarm bells. Fearing a cost explosion, most teams want to take this step until 2017. This should however be approved before the end of June 2015. Otherwise you will need unanimity. On the question of how the costs are to contain, there is still no final decision. The FIA has a management consultant at McKinsey commissioned to examine 9 teams in its cost structure and to inform savings proposals.These range from an increase of equal parts up to strict restrictions on the tools. The cost check the teams is complete. Now everyone is waiting for proposals.
If the extra fuel flow can increase the spectacle without detracting from safety then go for it. I'd much rather we just focus on evolution of the current rules than revolution, but it's clear that the idea of long-term thinking has eluded everyone at the top of F1, and I think some time soon they're going to regret that.
Formula 1's 1000bhp rules revamp moves closer Formula 1 teams have given the green light for work to continue on introducing 1000bhp engines in 2017, with car and tyre changes under consideration as early as next year. F1's Strategy Group met in Paris on Thursday to discuss in detail proposals to overhaul the look and speed of cars over the next two years. Although there is still plenty of work to do in finetuning matters before the ideas can be put into the rules, there was support for changes to be introduced across 2016 and '17. On the engine front, it was agreed that the 1000bhp move should be achieved through lifting the fuel flow rate limit and maximum fuel allowance, rather than ditching the current V6 hybrids totally. Engine manufacturers have now been asked to produce more detailed proposals over the next few weeks to see if this is realistic to achieve.
All the races will have to in Europe then, because with the Health & Safety bods the will need run offs which extend across country boarders!
