You could argue that Vardy and Mahrez were before and are again so are reverting to type. Karius hasn't really done that badly this season in a new league so nothing to compare it to.
Karius need support from our fans to give him confidence, too many getting at the keeper imo, he's young and will improve.
The whole Chelsea team turned to **** last season! Yeah there turning back into what they were two seasons ago but still proves a point. A keeper needing a season to adapt if he was struggling with the strength of the league or sloppy at set pieces i can understand. A keeper failing the basic of saves and then cannot collect a hard shot is something which is not needing to adapt to.
I'm sure it'll work out and he'll get better I really do, no science behind it I just think he'll get better. Hope I'm right.
From what I saw, we went gung-ho. By simply getting men behind the ball, keep a rigid formation in defence and squeezing the space between lines, we could have handled them and covered any break through. As it was, when they broke, we were all over the place and they had acres of space to maraud into....it was basic stuff tbh, simply closing the game down.
He's not played ten games for us yet either #fresh I've not seen anything suggest he'll become a star but the lad deserves a chance imo
Very true. He's done well in Germany so there's no reason he can't do the same here. Any good/great outfield player you can name has had bed games or a run of bad games. Keepers are the same.
I just don't understand the logic - we want to sign talented young players but expect them to fit straight in and not have any teething problems. We could have signed someone like neymar when he was 18 but if he didn't deliver straight away, fans would be quick to get on his back. Klopp said it before - fans and clubs think the first way to solve problems is to buy players instead of working with them and developing them. Klopp has turned Milner into a LB, Lallana into a CM, Hendo into a number 6, Firmino into a false 9 etc. Surely he can help develop Karius into a top quality keeper with a bit of time. No one is saying Karius was good at the weekend - he was dreadful bar the brilliant save at 3-3. But what is frustrating how the focus is on him - there were so many issues with the team in the second half which are far more telling - notably the central defence and tiring midfield.
Exactly. Karius may never develop into the keeper we need but Mignolet is not the answer either. Klopp will do all he can to develop Karius and if not, he will buy someone else as a last resort.
Jimmy, he made a few good saves (hardly Yashin), but you never judge a goalie on their worldies - it's the basics that count. I remember being unconvinced by Reina in his first season, and also Grobellaar, tbh. The only goalie we got that I was bang sure would be fantastic from the first game I saw him (apart from being so old that I remember Clem's first season) was Kirkland: That went well. So I accept that a knee-jerk reaction isn't the best. But Migs makes fab saves too - that wasn't the problem. He just can't command his six-yard line, and everyone knows it. Somehow we've swapped that for someone with even less control of that area, AND he can't even hold or deflect a shot as good as Migs. as said, I honestly see no improvement on Brad Jones.
Firminho was dropped for several games in those first few months, and even now he's not exactly the first name on the team sheet. He's a three in five player, and he was dire on Sunday, and not just in the last 20 minutes. At least Mane was a threat when he got involved.
When a keeper has a bad game it's the main focus of attention - similarly if he has a very good game. Keepers can't go missing and have nowhere to hide unlike other players.
He is one of the first names on the team sheet in my eyes, he is vital to the pressing game Klopp wants to play and also to the fluid attacking game we employ. He was dire Sunday but we've got to remember he is not a winger, he was only being played there as a last resort because we had no other attacking options.
Sorry Jimmy, you're over-egging the pudding there. It was good, important save, but I see every Prem keeper pull off something similar every week. But if that was 'brilliant', what adjective would you use for his part in the second and fourth goals? As we're in Hyperboleville, I'd go for catastrophic and cataclysmic as I have my Thesaurus handy.
