Match Day Thread 2016/17 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

He's not got much to beat there like.

He's about as inspiring as pavement pizza.

Yet another 'yes man' for the FA.

 

He's pretty much useless really.

But the FA have a problem. They need to get more english managers in the game and there are none.

Of the past 15 years... lets go back to say 2000 euros.

this is the squad


David Seaman GK coach in non league?
Gary Neville Pundit (lets not mention valencia)
Phil Neville coach
Sol Campbell nutjob
Tony Adams director of football at gabala in Azerbaijan
Martin Keown pundit
David Beckham - celebrity
Paul Scholes -chip on shoulder.
Alan Shearer -pundit. fialued at newkie
Michael Owen -gambler. punidt, amassador hack at lfc
Steve McManaman - pundit and part timer at lfc academy
Gareth Southgate ENGLAND MANAGER
Nigel Martyn ex gk coach not in game
Paul Ince managed several clubs, non since 2014.
Gareth Barry - still playing
Steven Gerrard - just retired
Dennis Wise - amde DOF madly at newkie. doing nothing
Nick Barmby - bit of non league coaching
Emile Heskey nothing
Kevin Phillips -assistant coach to paul clement at derby.
Robbie Fowler - propoerty magnate and party animal. flirts with being a manager a lot
Richard Wright - ahem

so ok picking the elite idiots out is not the best way to find coaches but....

Ince was the clostest out of those guys to actually do anyhting. Kevin Phillips is the only guy now to be actively coaching bar southgate

Adams should have been a manager but he's gone and done this wierd ****.

I mean lets face it they are all spoiled rotten and chasing easy life so you get these guys who are hungry for it from foregin lands dominating the jobs.... english big names are not hungry.

Clement and phillips at derby are about it as up and coming no?

its depressing frankly.

 

and yes i am not counting Howe as up and coming as he is in prem and could be considered when he wants to apply.

options:

1. Bruce
2. Southgate
3. Dyche
4. Pardew
5. Phelan
6. Monk


thats it then... what a shower of ****. howe is actually probably most desired

 

They should have offered it to Wenger, to take over at the end of the season.

 

true but there seems to be a.... english only... attitude right now.

 

#brexit #racism

 

Southgate saves them about £4m a year.

Foreign with pedigree costs.

 

that is true for sure.

They should have their pick of half the prem if english ex players were motivated to continue in the game, get good qualification and actually do the job. most of the lower leagues are english or british managers but actual qualifications seem rare.

right now the list above is it and most are deeply unsuited to the job.

Wenger is an archetypal international manager. 2 or 4 years at end of career job to crown a distinguished career. we simply don't have ANY candidates that fit the bill now.

 

Therein lies the issue. Multi millionaire players seemingly can't be arsed with learning the management trade in the lower leagues and then progressing up the pyramid.

Too much like hard work and nowhere near glamorous enough for the poor lambs.

 

It's no wonder Maureen carries on doing the same **** when he keeps getting a tap on the knuckles, the FA are a joke.

Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho given one-match touchline ban

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...s-jose-mourinho-given-one-match-touchline-ban

 

Monk plays some decent stuff but given is "lack" of International experience and track record at Swansea, which wasn't all that bad given their current predicament, he was most likely never in the running..
So, given options 1-5, you can see why they went with Southgate, best of a bad bunch..
Maybe Howe, if he keeps Bournemouth in the PL for the next few years and progresses them, will be their main target after Euro 2020, after we've no doubt failed to qualify from our group of mediocrity!

 

Football fans via committee couldn't do a worse job than these so called qualified coaches/managers...

 

For me..

i agree

1. manager should prove his mettle at prem level. check for howe

2. manager should either by move or improvement of team manage in european competition. (suggest knowledge of trips away, preparation different forms of football etc) he will need to move to a "bigger" club to do this.

3. Manager should ideally win blooming something. a cup of some sort! howe should be able to try do this now.. not shown it yet.

4. manager should have gone round eufa conferences, built networks, have all the coaching badges etc. This just shows he knows how to game the system.

so.....

Eddie howe... great work.. infact amazing achievement to bring bournemouth to where they are... AND be looking like a decent pufit who can survive in prem but you'd like him to win something.

 

It may sound daft but I don't think either English players or English fans are patriotic enough. That same 'oomph' Klopp wants the crowd to provide to spur the team on can be vital as we saw on Saturday when Origi scored. That spine tingling Icelandic thunder clap is what we as a nation seem to be missing.

 

yup
talking on tv is easier

keown, shearer, mcmanaman, owen, neville, carragher.

the biggest disappointment to me on that list is carragher. the lad should have had all the attributes to give the thing a go but i feel he's bottled it and took the easy route... and you know... he' got loads of dosh, young kids he can spend time with and an easy haul of cash coming in form sky.. so can you blame him..

I think he will look back in 10 years time however... when the kids are grown and have some regret. For me he had FAR more chance of managing that gerrard

Gerrard strikes me as a guy who will not handle the pressure. I just feel he won't translate into any sort of manager. Carragher was a bit of a loon and shouty but i felt he thought more about football and would work hard at doing it well....then he takes the easy route.


The other thing I note about these guys is they seem to get free access back into their clubs and the insdie track. Carragher seems to have an open door in to talk to everyone about everyhting. if clubs said no you are cut off on your tod these guys might miss the game enough to get bored.

 

That thunder clap was stolen out of scotland

"However, according to Icelandic publication Morgunbladid, the song was adopted by Icelandic club Stjarnan on a trip to Scottish side, Motherwell.

Fans of the Reykjavik-based side were first introduced to the terrifying terrace chant in a Europa League game with Scottish Premier League side, Motherwell. Motherwell's slow-cap then evolves into the club's trademark song, 'Since I Was Young.'"

there you go...

I do think that you are right though. Other countries seem very motivated to be fans and have ultras who when not beating each other or being nazis (italy) seriously organise the noise i nthe ground

Now i'm not having a go at the kop where guys in pubs come up with new songs for players etc but I do think that whole part of the game went out with all seater stadiums.

For too long the kop sung one end and the stands were quiet. MAny times i've sat hearing away fans like stoke etc out sing the stadium.

Klopp is dead right and you know... as a slight i would say if guys spent more time organising the support in the ground than organising protests and SoS the team would be better cos support would be better

 

It's all about motivation. What motivates a player to become a manager?

I don't know for sure and it's a very generalising comment but I think a lot of great players and managers came from tough backgrounds. The passion and desire comes from a fighting instinct. Or maybe I'm out of touch and those days when that did happen are long gone and now they're just all too soft.

 

If I were a betting man I would bet that Southgate job will end in failure. Better managers than him, Roy and Sam have come up a cropper in the job. I can't see Southgate being better than any one else. He is so dependent on players performing for England at the same level as in their clubs. When did we see a player do that? Where are the English players who are key players in the top clubs?

For LFC: Coutinho, Firminho, mane

For Arsenal: Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey (?), Cech

For Chelsea: Hazard, Costa,

For spurs: Lloris, Alderwereld, Delle Ali (E) ?, kane (E) ?

For City: Aguero, Toure,

For the mancs: De Gea, Pogba,


Hardly any English players as key for the top 6 clubs.

 

Don't know but let new know if you find them

 

Very interesting about the thunder clap. There's always been very strong ties between Icelandic countries and Scotland, the most northerly Scots even sound Icelandic.

I think sitting down does alter the support, it shouldn't do but it does. I also think the same 'fight' I mentioned in my previous post is gone from the supporters as well. It's no longer the weekend refuge of the working class man, time to forget the working week, let all your anger or whatever out on the stands and then back home for a meagre meal. We've all gone soft as well