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  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    You do realise why I posted the original reply, don't you?
     
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  2. Gone For A Walk

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    Post edited to recognise that. I agree. But then moving on to most everything else from the Allams that leaves our club the total train wreck and sick joke that it has become .....
     
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  3. Gone For A Walk

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    I dip in and out, so maybe not. But if you mean the spray painting, then yes, I agree with you.
    But it doesn't change what I wrote, that our protests against the Allams are absolutely pathetic.
    As is the local media efforts too. "Well, we left them a voice message and if they don't return our call what can we do?". FFS.
    What will it take to stir what's left of the support, and the local media into meaningful action? There's even a not insignificant number of 'supporters' who still back the Allams. Only at City eh.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

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    The SMC certainly receive advice from the security services, I've seen it as part of my role as the fan rep on the SAG, but they generally relate to the operation of the stadium for an event, rather than what happens when there's nobody there.

    The odd thing about the story in today's HDM, is they state that they're acting "to give the SMC the ability to react to any threat which might pose itself surrounding an event day" and to take "reasonable measures to protect the area as a crowded place", yet are only proposing closing it during "night-time and non-sociable hours".

    The two don't seem to tally.

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/smc-...orism-threat/story-29859075-detail/story.html
     
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  5. Chilton's Hundreds

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    More siege mentality from the owners.

    Next I expect a moat and a drawbridge.
     
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  6. Barchullona

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    Machine gun towers?
     
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  7. Barchullona

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    I was referring to the fact he wrote spay painting and not spray painting.
     
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  8. Chilton's Hundreds

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    I was thinking more pouring boiling oil over kids and pensioners as they queue to get in.
     
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  9. Amin Arrears

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    They could roll this down the footbridge

     
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  10. Chilton's Hundreds

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    It's barely audible, but If you listen very carefully one of those impaled attackers whispers as a dying breath "City 'til I Die"
     
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  11. steverico

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    Protests rarely work, I've been on strike in previous jobs over pay, over privatisation,over job losses, every single time when I've withdrawn my Labour there has always been scabs who will work regardless, thereby rendering the strike ineffective because the bosses, (Allam included ) use the scabs, ( fans not bothered about the name change) as justification for their actions.

    I.E no pay rise, shed jobs, change name of football club.

    The only really recent protests that seemed to have changed the bosses minds were the Liverpool season ticket rises which were swiftly quashed and the Everton badge change, must be a Liverpool thing, the other really big U Turn was the Poll Tax riots.

    Football clubs are different in that people get emotionally attached to them, so to ask some fans to protest either by shouting at the owners, walking out, not renewing, writing strongly worded letters, whining on the Burnsy show, will never work, because like striking, the scabs/you can piss on them they will still support the Allams, will always go to work/the game.

    So we either shut the **** up about protests, or really make it unpleasant for the Allams to function day to day, and by that I mean away from the KCOM
     
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  12. Happy Tiger

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    Erm the protests over the name change worked.

    Really well in fact. Might not have changed the Allam's minds, but they definitely worked a treat.

    People don't go to games to support the Allams. They're going despite the Allams because its ours (the fans) club. Some are choosing not to go and that's up to them. Everyone has a different reason to either go, or not go, to see a football game.

    Comparing it to a job in all honesty is stupid.
     
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  13. steverico

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    So it didn't work, the FA stopped them, but they would still change the name, we never changed their minds one bit, and the job comprison was to relate protests in general, and read my post again before you call me stupid, I compared the Allam supporters of the name change to scabs who refused to strike.

    And protests rarely work, ****ing hell its hard going on here sometimes, always some **** reading posts they way they want them to read.
     
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  14. Happy Tiger

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    I didn't call you stupid, I said your comparison was. Try reading it again.

    It is. Stupid that is.

    Comparing supporting a football club to fighting for employment rights is stupid.

    Comparing people who happen to think the Allams weren't the devil to scabs is ****ing stupid. That's like saying all labour supporters are scabs because you're a tory. It's stupid. Unless you think you're the one who is always in the right, then you're deluded.

    Suggesting the protests against the name change didn't work because they didn't change the minds of the Allams is stupid. The aim was to stop the name change, however that came about, so the protests were entirely successful.

    Wait, I should have called you stupid.

    If you don't think protests work, stop protesting about my posts. In this instance btw, you'd be spot on.
     
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  15. Steven Toast

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    People didn't want to strike, that's their prerogative. That's up to them, they aren't scabs at all.

    Some jobs people don't want to strike because there's too much at stake and they make a choice. Different in football, though. In all honesty it's a weak analogy, the people who aren't striking aren't being used as a reason, it's obvious that there's a lot of people that are unhappy, a couple of years ago you might've had a point as there were more people supporting the Allams, now there are virtually zero and they haven't got much of a leg to stand on.
     
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  16. steverico

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    I worked for a few firms in the 70's and 80's and when the bosses said no/very small pay rise you had two choices accept it or protest, if the bosses still refused we went on strike, as a group of people who all wanted a pay rise we all wanted the same thing, anyone who didn't strike was a scab, because if the pay rise was awarded they didn't refuse it, they also benefited.

    Any City fan who didn't back the protests to the name change and who now thinks the Allams are ****s for dropping concessions is a football scab.

    Can you now see why I made the link? If we had all stuck together from day 1, the Allams would have gone much earlier, because they would have seen we were all in it together, but no, they used the apologists as fuel that they were right, and used a dodgy Brexit type vote strategy to endorse their reasoning.

    Any **** who sits back at work and let's their colleagues lose money striking to try and better their working conditions is a scab ****, and I've worked with a few, and anyone who says otherwise is probably Allams best mate
     
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  17. Amin Arrears

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    Personally I'd say anyone stamping their feet, spitting their dummy out and refusing to work til they're given more money is a scab.

    Particularly well paid teachers.

    But hey ho.
     
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  18. steverico

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    Don't misquote me I said protests rarely work, the poll tax, the Liverpool and Evertons ones did because everyone stuck together, City fans were too divided to get the Allams out, the FA killed the name change so the Allams got back at us with a massive price increase the season after and then the membership scheme this season.

    The name change was the tip of the iceberg we won **** all, look up the definition of a scab will you, I've worked with many, and to a man they are all ****s. A bit like conscientious objectors who let everyone else go to war whilst spouting religious or moral ground, cowards in other words.
     
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  19. steverico

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    Would you? that says a lot about you then, say something meaningful instead of trolling everyone.
     
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  20. Steven Toast

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    <laugh> not many of those my friend.
     
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