Fine, did think he dwelled to long and lost it too easily though, in that situation you just need to get rid of it straight away.
He does tend to dwell too long from time to time but someone should still have helped him out and they didn't
I think that's harsh on Khazri. He did fanny on and acknowledged his mistake. He knew he should have shifted it. I watched their game right through though and he was one of the few to come out with any credit. He tries and has ability. The worrying thing for them would be they actually seem to be trying. They just lack quality and are a really poor side. At least with us last year you felt there was some ability in small doses, but it was easy to pinpoint a complete lack of stones and effort. There is a long way to go however and they are not yet adrift. Moyes looks clueless and is vastly overrated on his time at Everton in my opinion. Dour football. I'm not sure he is the answer even with time. I'd make a change sooner rather than later. However selling their soul and reputation by re-appointing someone like Allardyce is not the way to go. That just blackens the clubs name and you can't just put PL survival above all else. The club and fans deserve better than some greedy fat **** who shouldn't even be allowed to work in football. He was exposed for what he is, Sunderland should be setting a higher standard for themselves. There are others who might be able to turn it around with a window. The stupid thing is spending in January again to save their skins when they should have invested in the summer. The FA screwed them a bit with timing but Short never makes an effort when there is a chance to ensure no repeat. It's just bad business and bad appointments over and over again. We've seen it with Ashley. Up until last season he was reluctant to invest at the right time and then he appointed some buffoon to spend when he did. The buck stops with owners at the two clubs - some of it is malice but there seems to be just as much stupidity and not understanding football. We have stumbled upon something with Benitez who is just a genuine football man. Sunderland need something similar where a strong enough character with ability says "look you idiot leave the football to me". It's sad it takes luck given the droves which happily part with cash to follow both clubs, and we both will still be relying on the owners to not interfere and **** it all again.
What's the point? That implies it's Moyes doing it's not. I wouldn't wish this shower of **** squad on anybody. He deserves his own window at the very least. That last one he was buy players when he hadn't had enough time to asses his squad and he had bot all to spend. I know there's many of you wanting to make the same mistakes again but not me. It's always been the owner but the managers get the flack, people who don't learn get what they deserve.
If I remember correctly, Everton weren't doing very well when he took over and it took him a couple of years to get it right. Maybe that's how it will go with us. I'd like Sam back but I don't think it will happen so I think Moyes should be given our full backing. He's probably one of the best we could get and he should be given a couple of years. Odds are that we're down anyway but Moyes has to get this right in the end or he'll never get another managers job again.
Sorry tobes but finishing after 38 games in a non-relegation position is not through luck - The luck, I suppose, would be that three were worse than us every season but we've deserved to stay up every season as the league table, after 38 games, does not lie. As for the OP - 2 choices? I personally think we have 2 hopes - And one of them is Bob!
It's hard to make a case for Moyes, it really is, he's a boring and uninspiring old scruffy loser, but he really hasn't got much to work with so it's equally as hard to make a case against him. It's almost like hiring a (crap) handyman to knock you up a kitchen, providing him with a fork, a sparrow and a rolled up turd as tools, and then coming for a look a few days later and being perplexed at why your kitchen looks so ****. I think he's a clown for not signing players in August, he had a full month, plenty of time. Maybe he needed to assess the squad but at the very least he could see that your numbers were low, you needed bodies in. Heresay whispers of ITK doesn't wash when you're sat on 2 points from 30. If he can't tempt a few good players to a PL team he shouldn't be working in this game. He had a full summer here and signed one, **** player, nobody should be making excuses for the guy. But... the injuries have mounted, the players, **** like Kone trying to jump ship because he wasn't given a kings ransom wage rise after a handful of good performances. Januzaj has been pathetic, he's destined for the scrap heap. The M'Vila fiasco. Kaboul leaving. Allardyce wouldn't want this squad back, it's ****ing wrecked. Moyes in or Moyes out, it won't make a difference imooc.
You know I don't agree about this assessing the squad I would of thought a good premiership manager probably knows the strength and weakness of every squad in the premiership most fans do so they must be pretty thick if they are on 2 to 5 million a year and they don't know what there competitors are like and he has had f uck all to do since he was sacked the useless boring tw at.
The problem is, the **** handyman could at least tell you that he's going to try his hardest to fit the kitchen and then pile the stuff in a vaguely kitchen shaped arrangement. But he hasn't, he's sucked his teeth, gone "can't do anything with this" and left the kitchen as several pieces of randomly distributed and unrelated bits of raggedy chipboard. While still hanging round taking your money.
for me, Moyes has never been the right fit. He had some success at Everton but then lost his way and he is spiralling further with every job. The squad isn't the best but they certainly aren't motivate in the way they were last season and that comes down to belief and confidence instilled by the manager. He has showed arrogance and stupidity by continuing to play Rodwell and Watmore who are frequently poor. Even Rodwell must go into games now not believing he is going to win with his unwanted record. He is tactically negative when we have been in positive points positions and has cost us points because of it. The table already looks grim, however, I believe a change to a new manager who plays football trying to win football matches is better than one who is always trying not to lose one. Who that might be, I don't know but there must be other Eddie Howe types who have ambition to achieve and be proud to be at our club, rather than someone who saw it as a potential route back to where he thinks he belongs. I fear the damage is done already, for us and Moyes.
It is also obvious that Ndong is very much a developing young player who certainly needs to work on his distribution but I have seen potential in his ball winning attributes. Why he was targeted as a defence midfielder, when we only had Defoe and Borini (who wasnt even being employed as a striker) I just cannot comprehend. It is like knowing you have a hole in your shoe, but instead of repairing it you buy a new pair of gloves, still go out and jump in puddles and then are confused why your socks are getting wet. Best way I can describe it
We had discussions with 2 strikers in August - both signings which would've improved us. Not sure who the other one is but I know for certain that Bony was about to agree a deal with SAFC when he got the call from Stoke doubling our substantial offer!
Only choices i see is that we either support Sunderland or not. As usual i will follow them from afar but must make an effort to see them some time soon, might have a trip up North in the new year.
Stick with Moyes and see what happens when some of your missing 1st team players come back. The injuries are the only thing keeping him in a job though.
This wouldn't suprise Me but the big question is how can Stoke offer double the wages? My guess to that is we are spending far too much of our wage budget on **** players. Rodwell is probs on 50k plus Djilobodji is probs on similar as he wouldn't have left Chelsea for less than they would have been paying him. Then there's player like Billy Jones Khazri PVA and probably loads of other wasters earning 30-40k per week. This isn't Moyes fault apart from maybe Djilobodji as he has been stuck with the dead wood as we couldn't afford decent wages to get decent players in. Also can't blame Short on this. He probably was willing to spend more in transfer outlay but couldn't afford to completely blow our wage budget due to the financial fair play rules.
It's not the chairman or the manager or the players (because they're ****) fault? Is it my fault then?
