The EU debate - Part III

Got fed up with the US election so haven't been keeping up with the latest news. Has the allegations against Trump been proved. Last I heard he was going to sue everyone?

 

Yes.

 

First glance brings up this....

Hillary and Bill Clinton have been present at the Yalta conference in the past and Mr Trump has made a speech via satellite in support of Ukraine. Since then, however, his repeated statements of support of Mr Putin, his condoning of the annexation of Crimea and suggestion that he may not defend Nato allies under attack has caused consternation. This was heightened when Mr Trump hired Paul Manafort, who had played a key part in getting Russia’s ally, Mr Yanukovych, to the Ukrainian presidency before his overthrow. Mr Manafort subsequently resigned after details emerged of his links with pro-Russian parties in Ukraine.

Seems to change his mind a lot!?...

Or there's this....!

sy involving Donald Trump.

Amid allegations that the Repubilican nominee has praised the authoritarian Russian leader and controversy that he urged Russia to hack into Hillary Clinton's emails, Mr Trump has now been mocked for giving a confused explanation of the Ukraine crisis. He also suggested he would end sanctions against Russia.

In an interview on ABC News programme This Week, Mr Trump appeared to suggest he did not know Mr Putin had already seized control of the south-east of parts of Ukraine and was supplying Moscow-supporting rebels with arms, logistical support and even fighters.

He said: “He’s not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand.

“He’s not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want.”

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But when the host, George Stephanopoulous, pointed out that some Russian troops have already been in eastern Ukraine for nearly two years, the Republican presidential nominee backpedalled and became defensive.

He said: “OK, well, he’s there in a certain way.

“But I’m not there. You have Obama there. And frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under Obama with all the strength that you’re talking about and all of the power of NATO and all of this.

“In the meantime, he’s going away. He take – takes Crimea.”

He's a ****ing joke pal! You're just either too thick or too bigoted to see it!...

 

Never supported or voted Labour/socialist in my life

Your definition of diversity is not mine and colour has nothing to do with it.

I will be celebrating diwali on Sunday with friends and family. People of all different colours will be present and no one will care.

 

So yes then.

You're as batshit mental as he is

 

Biased polls? You're a full-blown Trumpster, aren't you? You're totally swallowing his shtick.

So you're still sticking by the convicted fraud, doing the thing that he was caught on before, despite knowing that Trump funded him?
And how do you expect anyone to take you seriously after that?

So now that you've read that Jerusalem Post article, do you think that Trump would allow Iran to launch a nuclear attack on Israel?
Would he retaliate, given that he'd attack them for making rude gestures?

 

Me neither but I've been accused of being a lefty as well simply because I disagree with the far right, anti foreigner views of our resident five bigots.

 

Well let me tell you #Tobes. This is one 'racist' that prays brexit brings a swift end to your business (whatever it might be) and that you and yours end up living in some Calais Jungle type **** hole.

Assuming that you don't already

 

There's this nonsense,

.“They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists,” Trump said of undocumented Mexican immigrants while announcing his candidacy last June. ..

Or this idiotic garbage...


“We're going to build the wall, and we're going to stop it. It's going to end,” Trump said at a campaign stop in March, referring to illegal immigration.

Or this xenophobic nonsense....


Donald Trump
on Google
Restore integrity to our immigration system by prioritizing the interests of Americans first. Enforce our immigration laws – at the border and at the workplace. Build a border wall and end sanctuary cities. Send criminal aliens home.
Sep 16, 2016
“They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists,” Trump said of undocumented Mexican immigrants while announcing his candidacy last June.
Citizenship surge due to immigration controversy
WJLA-TV - May 19, 2016
“As has been stated continuously in the press, people are pouring across our borders unabated. Public reports routinely state great amounts of crime are being committed by illegal immigrants.

Or this little hypocritical beauty!...


However, Trump conceded, “I try and pay as little tax as possible, because I hate what they do with my tax money. I hate the way they spend our money.”

 

Which allegation? There have been tons.
He's heading to court in December for the rape of a 13-year-old and there's no chance of him suing anyone.
It would put him in a very difficult position.

 

It clearly says he'd defend them. It doesn't say what form that would take. When the specific claims in the video are debunked, I'll happily hold my hands up, until then, it's there as a talking point at least.

There's plenty wrong with the Clintons. Anyone trying to ignore that is a fool, Picking one in a two horse race doesn't mean I back him, that's just more of your lazy rhetoric. It simply means I see him as by far the lesser of the two evils.

Many of the polls and much of the media in the US are biased.

 

Clinton says pretty much the same.

 

So you agree that Trump would defend Israel if they're attacked by Iran, but you don't know what he'd do if it was a nuclear attack?
I think that we all know what would happen, even without US intervention.

Who's saying that there's nothing wrong with the Clintons? Bill's not standing for election, by the way.
Trump's far, far worse than either of them, though. He's worse than anyone that's stood in living memory.
He's an openly racist, stupid, corrupt stooge who lies constantly and won't let his own campaign investigate him.
He's so bent that he won't even let his own people protect him from bad press, for fear of what they'd find.

All of the media are against Trump? If that were true and it clearly isn't, then why do you think that is?

 

Britain is clearly not a Muslim or brown country. To suggest it is is blatantly dishonest and or stupid.

More people living here (white, non whites, Christian and non christian) does not equate to the extinction of the white race.
To suggest it does is blatantly dishonest and or stupid.

The last census gave the figure of 81.9% if the population being white British.

Out of the 18.1% that identify as being non white British will be white people from New Zealand, Australia, American, South Africa and Europe.

Of those that are non white, many are mixed raced with one white and one non white parent. And most of those parents were born here so they are as culturally British as white people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

The reason Christianity seems to be on the decrease is because far fewer white people go to church compared to previous generations. That is not the fault of immigration of people of any colour.

This country is and will continue to be a an overwhelmingly white country regardless of how many dishonest **** articles the Daily Mail and the Daily Express, The Star and the Sun produce.

 

Trump's other comments point to an approach in line with his approach to the bigger picture in the middle east, that would include Russian discussions. It's very doubtful Russia would favour a nuclear response.

That alone points to who is the most dangerous. Bill and Hillary come as a pair, always have.

Trump is not part of the 'system'. The media gets its work and access by negotiation and compliance with the wider establishment. They're not about to bite the hand that feeds them any more than they have to. The independent stats on coverage and focus shows it's a factual claim, and no, I can't be arsed to google a link to them.

 

Brexit being blamed for lack of towels
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...es-brexit-and-falling-pound-on-decision-to-e/

 

That's the most sensible thing that you've posted yet!

 

We will all be a longtime dead when that happens

 

Brexit blamed for me not winning the lottery

 

He is a Trog and he cant deny it.