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  1. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    Do new managers bring their own scouts in or do they use the scouts already resident? I`m thinking the mag superscout was there through a few managers and wondering if our scouts are part of the common denominator back room shower of ****e. They don`t get much of a mention. No idea how many there are.

    How does it work? Anybody?
     
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    hordenmackem Well-Known Member

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    Judging by our recent performances in the transfer window (last January aside) we obviously don't have any scouts and we just pick names out of a hat Pops
     
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    Seems like it. No way would ours be aware of Kone & Co.

    I wonder if the managers send them out to view players. If that`s the case it seems like ours haven`t a clue what they`re looking at. Some shocking buys. Just wondering if our scouts are part of the back room problem.
     
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  4. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Pops mate. Stop trying to hard.

    These ****ers are not worth it.

    I see what is going on Not worth it mate. Its just us.

    Although thiswas meant for the music fred.
     
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    I only realized today how disillusioned I am with football when I found myself reading the newspaper starting from the the front page.
     
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  6. grandpops

    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    Genuine question mate. Succession of managers all signing ****e yet the scouts never get any flak. They must be reporting on them surely. Maybe that`s the problem behind the scenes they`ve been on about.

    I know what you`re saying though.
     
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    Allardyce had some fella as his 'head of recruitment' who he'd worked with at other clubs. It was probably him, or his connections, who spotted Kone and the others that arrived in January.
    God knows who's spotting them now.
     
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  8. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    They sacked Pop Robson and replaced with what?


    Soz pops. Tine for me to retire ti bed. Maybe for the best.

    You will thank me for this one day.

    My sensible head kicked in for momenrt

    Good night.
     
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  9. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

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    My undertanding is it depends on the system - when we had a DOF he would have his own guys who would come and go with him, now we've scrapped that model I beieve each manager will have his own backroom team? Might all be bollocks of course and I can't be arsed trying to find out, may as well have kept schtum <laugh>
     
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    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    Nobody seems to know who the scouts are, how many of them, whether they`re employed by the club, whether new managers bring their own, whether managers come and go but the scouts stay put. They never get a mention or take any responsibilty/blame.

    Manager after manager all signing ****e. Are they acting on our scout reports?

    As an example - What if a manager says go and look at these two players. The report comes back with a `yeah, they`re both very good players` and it turns out they`re Buckley & Bridcutt. See what I mean?

    No idea where I`m going with this I just got a notion in me nut. You know how it is.
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    the best scouts have a secret password ......dib dib dib....dob dob dob
     
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    grandpops Well-Known Member

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    <doh>

    That`s probably about the standard of our lot mind.<laugh>
     
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    Some years ago Alan Durban, a former Manager of ours, earned a few bob doing 'Scouting' jobs for us.
    He was assessing potential players.
    Peter Reid sent him to Watford to look over a striker called David Connoly. (Yes that David Connoly).
    He reported back that Connoly was OK but his strike partner was a lot better and would cost less.

    So Peter Reid signed the one he recommended and got the reputation of being able to spot a winner.
    Alan Durban is just a footnote in the story of the , surprising, success story of SKP.
     
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    Alan Durban was one of the best managers we have had in the last 50 years, he was building a great team when he was sacked by the worst Chairman we have had in that period, another might have been story, in the sorry tale of SAFC.
     
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    Our main scout Fabrice Asensio(Sam's main man) has died. Heart attack. 50 years old. RIP.

    Found us Kone, Khazri and Ndong.


    Sunderland scout Fabrice Asensio has died at the age of 50.

    The former Ligue 2 French defender had been working as the Black Cats’ talent-spotter in his homeland since 2014.

    Under Sam Allardyce , Sunderland made good use of the Ligue 1 market in January.

    Wahbi Khazri joined from Bordeaux and Lamine Kone signed from Lorient, and both played a crucial part in the club’s successful fight against relegation last season.

    Allardyce’s successor David Moyes signed Didier Ndong from Lorient on August’s transfer deadline day.

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    RIP Fabrice Asensio.

    10:18 PM - 4 Oct 2016


    At the end of his playing career which took in Limoges, Dunkirk, Valencia and Chatellerault Wasquehal, Asensio worked as head of recruitment and assistant coach at Arles-Avignon. In the summer of 2014, Asensio joined Evian Thonon Gaillard as an assistant coach with responsibility for scouting opposition teams.

    Asensio had heart problems in 2001, and again in April.

    He died on Monday evening having suffered another heart attack. Knowing Asensio was unwell, his former boss at Evian, Pascal Dupraz dedicated Toulouse’s victory over Guingamp at the weekend to his former colleague. “He’s such a good person,” Dupraz wrote on his Facebook page.

    In a statement on the club’s official website, the Wearsiders have sent their condolences to his partner Marie, family and friends.
     
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    RIP Fabrice.
     
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