Match Day Thread 2016/17 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Only it wasn't an indirect free kick

#fail

 

Nice interpretation, Jags feeling the need to put his hands in front of his face probably gave the ref the impression that the player was trying to kick him in the face, therefore a direct free kick

I may pay some attention to how you interpret fouls against Liverpool players in future, probably wont be arsed though

 

They interpret rules to suit them

 

This sounds like exactly what i was talking about earlier.
Dont gives a rats feck which teams are involved but more and more this season it is becoming apparent that the people who uphold the laws of the games do not actually know the laws of the game. I think when there is so much at stake the refs should at least understand what they are supposed to do.
This is before the whole 'opinion' thing comes in - this is refs understanding the rules.
Am i claiming to know all the rules - no.
But i believe a fecking ref should

 

I was sat about 20 yards rom it, there was no suggestion it was anything other than a direct free kick

Deluded Kopite

Moss gave them everything he could btw, he as ****ing atrocious, the clueless manc

 

So what makes you think they don't?

 

#seemslegit

 

That is a long, long way

Moss is not the worst but far from the best. I love it when people read rules and think they are black and white, there is much more than is written as they are only guidelines as no two offences are identical and are judged on merit.

 

So when it says an opponent can't be in our box when the keeper is taking a GK, that's just a guideline and he can actually be in our box on merit?

 

It should have been though. Just found it amusing you make a comment about Liverpool getting s pen that everyone agrees was a pen, when your own team were given a direct free kick which scored from when it should have been indirect. Refs favouring Everton it seems eh

 

Nope, as I accepted that is a fixed rule, the same as if the ball crosses the boundary of the pitch means it's out of play

 

Didn't stop play when Leicester player entered the box before goal kick had cleared box when they scored v us.

Not giving indirect free free kick for high foot for Everton.

There's one thing to interpret a foul or handball, but something that is black and white like what is an infringement should be given. And don't get me started on penalties and keepers off line / encroachment.

 

They aren't guidelines. They are the rules. Granted a lot of interpretation and 'in the refs opinion' but something's are black and white in the law book.

Like me I said, things like a foul or handball can be interpreted either way and it's why video ref would be hard as what one person thinks is a foul another things differently, but there is clear definition for certain things and the referee should make those decisions correctly... like knowing to disallow a goal when it hits a beach ball for example.

 

It's blatantly obvious that technical details like the ball being in play only when it leaves the area and when indirect free kicks are given are things refs remember when they have to pass their exam and then immediately forget. On a day to day basis they know no more than what a fan picks up from years of watching the game.

Technical failures like this should force refs to resit the exam before being allowed to officiate again.

 

Not going to get into a discussion think enough decisions for all teams have proved they dont the know. Look around have been plenty, i dont mean interpretation so not pens i mean actual rules. Easiest to pin point (for me as liverpool fan)was the Leicester goal against liverpool - law 16 clearly defines the boundaries. It should not have stood end of. Ref in perfect position and looking directly at player in 18 yard box. Maybe he thought lucas' control was that bad it deserved to concede goal but that not the point.
As i said it is happening all over - don't know if you have watched many games outside the prem but it gets worse as you drop the leagues. The refs just get worse - think your manager calling it bad luck. I am not calling the refs - i think they need help. Sooner they start to use technology for more decisions the better.
Sunday league refereeing the worst - one of my mates got sent off for asking the ref how long was left to go in the match cause the ref didnt like his tone
The refs do not seem to be held accountable at all.
Personally i think they should have to explain their decisions at the end of the game or have microphones so we can hear the rationale. Even if we dont agree at least we would understand what the referee saw.

 

Most people who aren't liverpool fans don't agree it was a pen though. If we're giving pens for players leaning then the game has gone to pot.

 

Only fans of teams that can't defend without fouling say that

Try playing the ball not the man

 

Infringement is easy and unforgivable from a ref, handball is very subjective (the Arsenal supporters were screaming for a penalty today when the ball hit the hand of a defender on it's way to safety, out of the area).
Do you think a man putting his foot face high when an opponent he can clearly see is running in to head the ball is wreckless endangerment? should it be penalised by a red card and indirect free kick (because no contact was made) or do you think maybe a ref has a little leaway in things like that?

 

Nope, most neutrals have said the same even on this forum, and their team's defences are much better than Liverpool's

 

Read one of there matchday threads, it will explain everything