Should he stay or should he go: the JFH Poll thread

Surely come December we could just not renew his contract?

 

Fair comment. I don't like the style of journalism much either. But it does raise the question of how much of this stuff happens every day without being part of a sting operation? None of the participants so far seem to be particularly surprised by being offered money in coffee shops, pubs, hotel lobbies. At least Jimmy decided he was going to pay tax on it somewhere.

Sacking a manager, no matter how great, who has created a conflict of interest for himself would always be the right thing to do. A person of even third rate honour would of course resign. This is of course my personal perspective and I understand it won't be shared by all. For me dignity and integrity are more important than football results.

I've 'moved on' people who have put themselves into untenable situations several times (only half a dozen in 35 years, I'm not an axeman). At least a couple were very good at their jobs but had created situations which were unmanageable, usually through over enthusiasm rather than greed. All were offered the chance to resign with dignity and took it. Two I arranged good pay offs for because they deserved their past services to be recognised. These are the worst things I have had to do in the world of work. But sometimes it has to be done.

 

1. I detest that the Telegraph or any other journalists can operate freely in this way, but the fact he was foolish enough to go through with this, is indicative of a severe lack of judgment, and the interview itself reveals a side of JFH which I'm not sure I like. Was JFH going to declare this little earner to the Club?
2. This episode in itself is bad enough, but some of the decisions on personnel, tactics and performance have been baffling and he seems to not be learning from any of the mistakes which have been made.
3. I have never been a proponent of sacking managers without a decent spell in charge, but I cannot see how things are going to change and, I have a sense that things will continue to go downhill given what has just happened.
4. He's Chelsea- only joking!! But I feel a fresh start is required.

If things go badly for us at Chez Ruperts, then I think he's toast, and frankly, I'll not miss him.

 

Where do you get this about new lease of life from?

The internal investigation is being held up because the Telegraph haven't supplied the full video or audio, according to a new statement on the Official. Seems the LMA (League Mangers Association) are having the same problems according to the Guardian. This could take time.

 

Reckon once the full detail is released it might be the Telegraph with egg on its face? Can't think why else they would be withholding it. They must have known clubs and lawyers would react quickly.

 

The Telegraph said yesterday that the Police wanted to view it all ( all their allegations I understood, not just JFH) first, before even the FA.

 

Go NOW before he does further damage to the club.

 

Thanks Stan. You're explaining my viewpoint better than I could ever do.

 

Sb, l think you are bang on.
If he had principal, he could resign and if innocent, be reinstated at a later date, glowingly, so to speak.
The real fact of the matter of which some members have commented on is .....................

# When does he stop being a QPR manager ....................... and when does he start working for another employer?
# When does he click back on again, to be a QPR manager?
# Is that before he takes the bribe ( to elevate the proposed player or after)
# If he was genuine, he wouldn't have even considered the proposal - the trip. The fact that he went to Singapore ( regardless if he told the club ) is wrong.

This is my main point. Forget everything that l or anyone else think of him, it must be considered, that he has brought about a major conflict of interest.
One, not in the favour of the club, one, not in the favour of the fans ................. regardless of how he wants the whole circumstance to be portrayed.

The 'moneyball' situation for me, is that he has gone directly to his lawyers.
He, deep down knows he's done wrong ( if you think otherwise , see above ) ................ whether he's man enough to admit it remains to be seen.

Personally, I've back him up till a fortnight ago, he's not the manager for our club ............ now this.
Anyway, just my two bobs-worth's.

 

The trouble is there are huge problems with corruption in football at all levels. Cash passes under a table and it's difficult to get evidence.

As I read your comment, RTID, your problem is with inducement. But being a professional, a football manager of any worth should not allow himself to be induced into accepting bribes or taking money in clear conflict of interest with the club he represents. The Telegraph is to be commended imo, and the bung brigade will be sh***ing themselves for a while at least

 

nothing wrong with sting operations imo
they probably usually bring down the right people

 

That's probably usually why newspapers never ever have to pay damaged

 

Damages even...

 

So we are upto Monday now...have they released the tapes yet?

 

Tommy Wright tape:-

 

They're furiously re-shooting the whole shebang with a doppelgänger

 

I'm not convinced it makes any difference - Tony Fernandes seems to have made his mind up