If all he has done is agree to making a speech for £55k and his contract allows him to do this sort of thing then he hasn't done anything wrong and we have to assume that the amounts that he makes from speeches is declared to HMRC. Afterall paying people to make speeches is nothing new, Tony Blair esq has made a fortune from it, as have others........I'm just surprised that they actually think JFH is worth that much for a speech as he's never struck me as the type of person anyone would want to listen to in that context........
From LFW's......... http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/179872/that-didnt-take-long/#9
Hasselbaink has only been manager of a Championship club for a few months and not that much longer as a manger anywhere. Does he or anyone else believe that a company was willing to pay him to do a speech specifically about the Championship transfer market without any other obligations? Pull the other one.
Very true. Conversely if he didn't suggest a player from the 3rd party, it could be because they're not good enough or because he doesn't want to be seen promoting one of their players. If the latter then he's still not acting in QPR's best interests. Hoos and SLF wouldn't ever buy a player without consulting JFH so his impartiality would be compromised. The clause in his contract will not be without conditions otherwise he'd be open to speaking to other Championship clubs for money so he would have to have asked the club about the reported gig (to which they would have to have said no).
As is customary in the twilight zone that is 'The Modern Game', the court of public opinion will hold sway. A fan boycott / protest about JFraudH at the F*lham game and Swiss Tony's fingers will be a blur on that twitter thing citing 'integrity', 'feeling for the fans' etc etc followed by a swift chopping of the current manager. For me, the whole game is a tawdry, greed driven sham, far removed from the (relative) simplicity of the '70's / '80's. JFH apart from being; in my opinion , an overrated buffoon prematurely elevated to manage my wonderful team, is now in my eyes a greedy little s*d who trousered on a dubious premise 55 large - in a secondary employment and thus diverting his time from his real job which is - guiding us to lower mid table obscurity. In any other walk of life this behavior would not be tolerated. Go and go now.
Yes, BBC have yanked the JFH section,originally part (see attached) of this "Breaking" story:- Tommy Wright: Barnsley sack assistant boss amid football corruption claims please log in to view this image Barnsley have sacked assistant manager Tommy Wright following allegations of football corruption that came to light in a Daily Telegraph investigation. The Telegraph report includes film of Wright apparently accepting money in return for allegedly helping persuade Barnsley to sign players. Wright was suspended on Wednesday while the club investigated the allegations. But the 53-year-old has now been sacked with immediate effect after a meeting with chief executive Linton Brown. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37508193 please log in to view this image The Telegraph says there is no suggestion Barnsley were aware of Tommy Wright's alleged actions Barnsley have suspended assistant manager Tommy Wright after he was named in a Daily Telegraph investigation alleging corruption in football. Wright is filmed apparently being given an envelope of money in return for allegedly helping persuade Barnsley to sign players from a fake Far East firm. The newspaper claims he accepted £5,000 at a meeting in Leeds in August. The Championship club say he has been suspended "pending an internal investigation into these allegations". The Daily Telegraph's investigation involved Wright being introduced to members of the Far East firm, who were undercover reporters, by two football agents. "I can just recommend players to you that I've gone and seen, and you will have to do your spicy dealing, whatever you do," Wright is filmed saying during one of a number of meetings. Wright says "you know where I live" when the subject of giving him money is raised. He tells a member of the firm "cheers, just put it there," when a person hands him the envelope before the newspaper claims he left with it in his pocket. The article makes it clear that there is no suggestion Barnsley were aware of Wright's actions. Meanwhile, a spokesman for Wright is quoted as saying: "Any suggested acts contrary to criminal law or those of the Football Association and Fifa are categorically denied." The latest allegations come a day after the Telegraph claimed eight current or former Premier League managers had taken bribes for player transfers. Sam Allardyce left his post as England manager on Tuesday after claims in the newspaper that he offered advice on how to "get around" rules on player transfers. The FA, Premier League and EFL have pledged to investigate this week's newspaper allegations. In a joint statement, they said: "English football takes the governance of the game extremely seriously with integrity being of paramount importance. "Any substantive allegations will be investigated with the full force of the rules at our disposal, which are wide-ranging and well-developed. In addition, should we find any evidence of criminality we would inform and seek the support of the appropriate statutory authorities." The League Managers' Association (LMA) has accused the newspaper of holding up any investigation because it has yet to hand over any evidence. It said in a statement it wanted "full and complete unconditional disclosure of all the information it has, immediately". The Telegraph has said it will pass on all relevant material to the football authorities. please log in to view this image Hasselbaink was appointed QPR manager in December 2015 In a separate meeting, QPR manager Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is filmed apparently negotiating a fee to travel to Singapore to speak to the Far East firm. The Dutchman also allegedly discusses the possibility of signing players from them. He has not been suspended by the Championship club who say "there will be a thorough internal investigation regarding this matter". QPR's statement added: "However, we have every confidence in our manager and the robust systems and processes the club has in place." Former Chelsea striker Hasselbaink also issued a statement in which he denied "any accusations of wrongdoing on my part". "I was approached by Mr McGarvey and Ms Newell of The Telegraph purporting to be players' agents. They offered me a fee to make a speech in Singapore. "I do not see anything unusual in being offered to be paid to make a speech. "I did not make any promises in return. I did not ask QPR to purchase any of the players who were said to be managed by Mr McGarvey and Ms Newell and did not and would not recommend the purchase of a player for my personal gain." please log in to view this image Cellino recently took 100% control of Leeds United Controversial Leeds owner Massimo Cellino was also filmed by the Telegraph offering undercover reporters posing as an investment firm a way to get around FA and Fifa third-party ownership rules. In a meeting at Leeds' ground, arranged by football agent Pino Pagliara, Cellino apparently offered to sell shares in the Championship club as a means of funding the purchase of players. The Italian proposed the fictitious firm buy 20% of the club, in return for which it would receive the same percentage of future player sell-on fees. In the video, Cellino says: "I tell you, I spend eight million this year... on new players. "You want to finance that? You want to come 20% in that? You got 20% of the player - it's the only way. "As a shareholder you can finance the club, asking everything you want - percentage - you are allowed to do it in England." Leeds claimed the footage of their owner amounted to a "non-story" as Cellino "made a perfectly proper suggestion which is entirely consistent with the FA's regulations". The statement added: "If a company commits money to a club by way of investment, taking on the potential for profit but also the risk for loss, then that is a normal, everyday corporate process. "This is plainly not a suggestion as to how to circumvent the rules, but rather, an accurate albeit concise explanation of how to operate within the confines of the rules and effectively become 'the club'." http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37500734
He explicitly asked to be paid in such a way to avoid UK taxes. And he's not worth £55k for a speech it was an inducement to promote the 3rd party's interests. As far as I know the Telegraph hasn't specifically accused him of anything other than being prepared to take cash from a firm involved in player transfers, which is captured on the video. It's a clear conflict of interest, no matter what the cash is nominally for.
BRILLIANT I reproduce the club statement in full Club statement two - Over the last few hours the club has had the opportunity to review the videos made by The Telegraph Newspaper, in full, featuring our manager, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and in light of the overwhelming evidence in what we have seen, we feel we have no other course of action at this time than to blame the entire thing on Karl Henry... And make him captain.
Can one of the mods set up a poll please. Something like do you think JFH should be sacked or are you happy with him as manager after these allegations. Just interested to know what the percentage would be.
I'll do it mate, what questions do you want asked? For example He should be sacked because of the Telegraph story He has done nothing wrong and the club should stand by him He is a bit dodgy but the club should stand by him He has done nothing wrong but we should sack him for being a crap manager
Social media far more powerful than any newspaper Start a new story that Telegraph journos all meet once a week in the goat dungeon for anal sex with the Royal Germans
JFH IMO hasn't done anything wrong and in fact spotlights QPR which is great news If anyone on here thinks it may affect our clubs rep then that went when TF ate the club
Such an interesting list sb. I reckon it should just be something like should JFH leave the club due to these allegations? This is not about him being a dud manager who is taking us down or that he is crap at team selections/formations or that he wasted £3M on a striker that can't score. it's only about these allegations.
These are the JFH quotes... "I do not see anything unusual in being offered to be paid to make a speech." It certainly is not unusual for people to be paid for making a speech, we can all agree on this. The question is, is it unusual for JFH to receive such an offer? Either yes it is in which case did he not think hang on this is unusual no one has offered me money to make a speech before I'd better proceed with caution. I'm guessing he didn't think this given his statement above. So the answer must be no i get offers like this all the time hence its not unusual... in which case who else has offered to pay him to make speeches and did any of these parties have ulterior motives... I had no idea JFH was such an eloquent speaker and in such high demand that requests for his speeches were not deemed unusual. "I did not make any promises in return" Well i assume he promised to make a speech at the very least, well at least i hope did..., "I did not ask QPR to purchase any of the players who were said to be managed by Mr McGarvey and Ms Newell. The two reporters involved don't actually manage any players so this is not that surprising, but I'm glad to hear he did not ask QPR to purchase imaginary players who don't exist, in terms of bad things football managers could do this would be quite high on my list. "I did not and would not recommend the purchase of a player for my personal gain." Easy for JFH to say as to disprove this the sting would need to be real, his speech would need making, a player represented by the 3rd party would need to exist, and JFH would have to recommend signing the player to QPR whilst secretly thinking this player is ****e there is no way i would sign him but i need the money i make from my eloquent speaking career which is being funded by this players representatives... JFH now just looks like a bit of greedy twat who saw an opportunity to make a quick buck, i don't think for a minute he would of recommend signing players he thought were ****e just to pocket some extra cash from speaking, but when you sit down and have dubious conversations such as this nothing good ever comes from it and it demonstrates a lack of judgement and understanding of his role.
Breaking SSN: QPR Confirm investigation into manager JFH JFH and coaching staff taking team training.
Maybe one of the options in the proposed poll should be, do you want JFH to be tried in the media or would you rather wait for the club internal investigation to be completed.
Breaking SSN: QPR request unedited version of video footage & full transcript of discussions tat took place as part of investigation.
