Off Topic Fat Sam in the clart?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ation-england-manager-sam-allardyce-for-sale/


His FA bosses ain't gonna like this...

 

all on about it on tark sh,ite

 

Think this will mean the sack. By suggesting ways of undermining player ownership rules and being in a position where he can actually affect a players value must make his position untenable.
Love the remark he made that he was much better value for money because he would stand at the bar afterwards and have drinks with them. 150K per visit and he is still expecting them to pick up his large beer tab.
Bad news is he will be available to rescue Sunderland again.

 

Excellent get the useless **** out

 

Can't see this being anything other than a sacking - talking about dodgy dealings, criticising the last England manager, slagging off the FA and slandering the royal family!

Yes there's the worry that if he gets the boot that Sunderland might recruit him again in January, but I think even they've got the sense to stay away.....they did back a paedo though, so they might welcome him back with open arms.

 

I think even Sunderland would find that a step too far. He can forget the PL. It's not just the sack, he needs banned. He had shown himself to be despicable human being with a lack of moral fibre. I think he should be stoned in Trafalgar Square

 

WOOO-HOOOO!!

What a fantastic start to the day. Ex-Real Madrid Manager Allardyce in "Corrupt as F*ck" shocker. Love this, love this. Lifetime ban from football, please, but let's just get him sacked off first!!

Shall I create a "who do you want as England boss?" thread yet? Too soon?!

Does it represent a true depiction of the real threat to our game and in particular our national team, namely that of greed? More prevalent in football than anywhere else because of the volumes of cash - you do wonder, if that athletics cash just paid for athletes instead of facilities, would we be anywhere in the medals table? We'd have one or two pampered superstars and fck all else. Same with rugby and cricket, we achieve on a Global scale because - individually - the rewards are hard earned.

 

I doubt hes doing anything anyone else isnt doing, still he's an undignified twat we've always known him to be. Would be quite a shock though if they sacked him, just like that.

 

other managers were involved too? I wonder who, surely not Alan Pristine Pardew I couldnt see a lad like him ever being involved in something like this!

 

Pards will be waiting by the phone here for sure.

Glory awaits.

 

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Lololol

 

It seems I'm wrong there are plenty of Sunderland fans and football fans in general who see little wrong with what is being reported. Some even suggesting he has simply been "had" or "set up"...

 

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Ah the paedo line! How old was the lass Cisse knocked up again? And didn;t he keep playing for you after that? Ah yes!

 

Explain exactly what he has done wrong then? I have read a lot of stuff and seen videos but nothing of any legal substance yet. He's said it's easy to get around certain things and also that third party ownership is possible but I have seen zero concrete evidence that he has done anything against the rules (yet)

Doesn't look good for him but I'm taking a back seat until all of the facts are out there:

This is a transcript I've seen from Chronicle:

FIRST MEETING Allardyce's agent: "Is that third party ownership a problem though?"
Sam Allardyce: "It's not a problem."
Telegraph reporter: "Yeah, well, I mean there are, there are ways..."
SA: "It's not a problem."
Reporter: "...there are ways around that, as I understand it, or ways through that."
SA: "(inaudible) and er (inaudible) they've been doing it for years."

BREAK

SA: "You can still get around it. Obviously the big money is here."

BREAK

SA: "What they would be better doing is, making sure they've got the ownership and the agent. So they own the agent, the agent works for them, as well. 'Cause then the agent, if he gets sold on again, the agent will get more money if he gets sold on again."

BREAK

SA: "You get a percentage of the player's agent's fee, that the agent pays to you, the company, because he's done that new deal at that club again, or, they sell him on and you're not getting a part of the transfer fee any more, 'cause you can't do that. But ... but you get - because of the size of the contracts now, the contract'll be worth 30, 40 million, at 10%."
His agent: "Yes, I understand that."
SA: "And you get, you get, you've done a deal with the agent where you're getting 5% of the agent's fee. Which is massive for doing about two hours work, like."

BREAK

Allardyce's financial adviser: "But you're, you're setting up a fund to buy the economic rights, effectively, of these players?
Agent: "Third party ownership, yup."
Reporter: "Certainly in the places where we can do that, yeah."

BREAK

SA: "Third party ownership is only banned in this country because, because we have..."
Financial adviser: "And France, and France."
SA: "And France yeah."

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SA: "You can still get around it."
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Financial adviser: "And the fees will be sensible?"
Allardyce's agent: "I would have though £100,000 a time."

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SA (to reporter): "Your guys set the agenda out of what it would look like. Me flying out on - on a day ... landing in Hong Kong or Singapore, staying in this hotel, meeting these people, doing that keynote speech, travelling back either two days later or one day later."

SECOND MEETING

Unnamed agent: "What the player?"
SA: "No."
Agent: "You wouldn't give him anything?"
SA: "No."
Agent: "Would you not?"
SA: "The player?"
Agent: "Well, if he's recommending a player - if he says to him..."
SA: "Oh, oh, you're not, do not, I haven't heard that..."
Agent: "No, you're right."
SA: "I haven't heard that, you stupid man." (laughter)
SA: "What are you talking about? You idiot."
Reporter: "Yeah, it would never happen."
SA: "You can have that conversation when I'm not here."
BREAK
SA (to the agent): "Yeah but you slipped up tonight."
Agent: "Once."
SA: "You can't go there any more."
Agent: "What's that?"
SA: "You can't pay a player, you can't pay a manager, you can't pay a CEO. It used to happen 20-odd years ago, 30 years ago..."
gent: "No, no."
SA: "You can't do it now, you can't do it now, don't ever go there."

Not specifically sure what he has said that is so against the law - when you look at that transcript, it's not a difficult thing to back out of - that said, apparently there's more to come

Also - I can;t work out, if it's a "dodgy deal" or backhander or bung or whatever, why he would take his Agent and Fiinacial adviser with him? Makes no sense to me

 

It will be interesting if Allardyce reported this back to the FA and, if so, how much of this they knew.

If there is a sacking then I would expect a third Spanish villa and, this time, one called Casa St George.

 

How old was Cisse compared to the lass though? There is no comparison between Cisse and Johnson since the latter was a 27 year old man preying on a child.

 

I want Big Sam Sacked, then the immediate appointment of Alan Pardew. Then I want a video of Pardew to be leaked and the FA sack him making Greg Dyke and his stupid chums look like complete and utter plonkers thus compunding the fact that our national team is the joke of the world.

The FA needs stripping down to its bare bones and to start over with people who know the game, not suits and businessmen

 

He was 16 - legally old enough to have sex - she was 13 - or is that OK in your eyes?

You really trying to condone what Cisse did in comparison to Johnson? I hate Johnson for what he did to my football club - you are making excuses for the pervert at yours.

 

When he was 15 or something? The lass that became his wife? An event that occurred 11 years BEFORE we signed him?