Match Day Thread Southampton vs Crystal Palace 21/09/2016 Kick Off 7:45 PM

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Beddytare said:
A bit selective there don't you think? It is obvious that you think RK gave the youngsters a chance, but a lot of us don't. As for starts and playing youngsters as I said it is early days. Wasn't it five youngsters the other night? You cannot surely deny that Puel has shown more interest in his short tenure, than RK did in the couple of years he was here
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Is it you or is it me? I'm sure you're repeating yourself, Beddy. Time for us old buggers to get our cocoa and climb the old wooden hill.

But before I do ... I don't know what goes on behind the scenes but there was clearly an undercurrent of "Koeman doesn't buy into the youth policy" going on and the club statement about looking for a manager who shared the club's principles (or something like that, you get my gist) seemed to confirm this. In France this summer, lots of French footie fans I spoke to - I tend to frequent PMU bars and talk football - thought Puel was brilliant. They particularly admired both his style of play and his ability to bring on young players. Oh and they thought Sofiane was a brilliant buy, BTW.

So make of any of that what you will, but I was at my first game of the season on Wednesday night and I was well impressed. Palace were mediocre at best, but some of our play was excellent and yes, it's great to see the kids - mind you at my age even the bloody manager looks like a kid!

Sweet dreams all.
 
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Saints Fan4Life said:
Why are we only selecting the PL and Euros? The EFL cup is a competitive competition that Koeman never played the youth in either.

So far, Puel has shown more interest/willingness to play them, regardless of competition, than Koeman did last year.
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Because that's what Beddytare used as an example to say that Puel was playing the youth. HE picked the game, not me. Again, I simply pointed out he was wrong.

And you are wrong as well. Because Puel has not played Reed or Hesketh a single minute in either PL or Euro-- and as I pointed out earlier, neither one even made the bench at Euros. So that's at least two competitions where Puel has not demonstrated so far any greater willingness to play academy players than Koeman.
 
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I've read enough of this to be pissed off. Just enjoy the football for ****s sake. You all go on and ****ing on debating and discussing things over which you have no influence whatsoever. Puel will pick the side and nothing anyone writing on here has said about anything will influence him one jot. It is all just a lot of hot air. What an absolute waste of time and energy. Get a life for goodness sake.
 
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St Godders said:
I've read enough of this to be pissed off. Just enjoy the football for ****s sake. You all go on and ****ing on debating and discussing things over which you have no influence whatsoever. Puel will pick the side and nothing anyone writing on here has said about anything will influence him one jot. It is all just a lot of hot air. What an absolute waste of time and energy. Get a life for goodness sake.
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In fairness, isn't this what a forum is for?
 
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I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
I have never claimed that RK gave the youth a chance. All that I have said is that Puel so far has not given the youth more playing time than Koeman has. Reed and Hesketh have played exactly 0 minutes in PL and Euros.

YOU said that Puel played our "promising players" in Europa League. I simply pointed out you were incorrect about that. How am I being selective when YOU were the one who picked the game?
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Again you are being selective..........I did say that Puel played our most promising youngsters in the European league and the the league cup. So I actually picked a couple of games.

Edit. Let's not forget the other games in pre season also.
 
Beddytare said:
Again you are being selective..........I did say that Puel played our most promising youngsters in the European league and the the league cup. So I actually picked a couple of games.

Edit. Let's not forget the other games in pre season also.
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Pre-season? Koeman played every kid on the block pre-season.

I like what Puel is doing. I agree he seems to care more about youth. However, ISIRTP hasn't said anything untrue. His logic is sound. Puel hasn't been youth crazy at all. He's actually been a master at squad rotation - and some young players have benefitted from this. Is that a specific desire for youth or simply pragmatism and the ability to recognise talent? I actually prefer option 2.
 
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I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Because that's what Beddytare used as an example to say that Puel was playing the youth. HE picked the game, not me. Again, I simply pointed out he was wrong.

And you are wrong as well. Because Puel has not played Reed or Hesketh a single minute in either PL or Euro-- and as I pointed out earlier, neither one even made the bench at Euros. So that's at least two competitions where Puel has not demonstrated so far any greater willingness to play academy players than Koeman.
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Beddytare is one person. Several of us made the general point that you seem to be arguing with. By doing it in the league cup, Puel had already shown more inserted in trying these players than Koeman did.

I don't get why that can't just be accepted and us people who see that as positive, can't be allowed to have that positive view.

It's like arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
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I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
So that's at least two competitions where Puel has not demonstrated so far any greater willingness to play academy players than Koeman.
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Or to flip that...

.... So that's at least one competition where Puel HAS shown greater willingness...

It all depends on how you want to view life. I view this fixture as Puel being willing. :)

Now it's time to take off my sandals, water my flowers and find some sweet dreams.
 
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fatletiss said:
Or to flip that...

.... So that's at least one competition where Puel HAS shown greater willingness...
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Except he hasn't really done it in the League Cup either. Which I could easily show you, except you are doing your standard trick of asking for evidence and arguments while expressing how tired you are of the whole conversation.
 
fatletiss said:
I'll let it go, when Harry Reed wins a block tackle in the middle of the park and sends Hesketh forward, who then beats two Everton players all ends up before curling one into the top corner and then knee slides in front of the Everton dug out while pointing at the name on the back of his shirt to the lying Dutchman, on November 27th :)
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Great image - hopefully it will be raining, so he can do the 180 spin knee slide, so the back of his shirt ends up facing Koeman...
 
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I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Except he hasn't really done it in the League Cup either. Which I could easily show you, except you are doing your standard trick of asking for evidence and arguments while expressing how tired you are of the whole conversation.
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How about you and I have a conversation about the topic rather than the person? Please? Just asking if we can do that.

So you understand my reasoning, I am not considering Gazza/JWP as youngsters as both played in previous years as first team players.

Last season, Koeman chose not to play Reed, Hesketh, Stephens or such players. I already made comment that he played Targett and In the league Cup last season Seager made the bench but didn't get on.

Puel has started Reed and Hesketh. I see that as a step further forward than Koeman and I am taking that positively, coupled with the comments made by Koeman, this is making me feel good about this topic.

That's all. I am happy to discuss differently without personal digs (which I didn't do to you, I just flipped your comment). Let's try and discuss it yeah? I have no "tricks"
 
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fatletiss said:
Now it's time to take off my sandals, water my flowers and find some sweet dreams.
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fatletiss said:
That's all. I am happy to discuss differently without personal digs (which I didn't do to you, I just flipped your comment). Let's try and discuss it yeah? I have no "tricks"
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Yeah? Bloody hell, flt, one minute you sound like an old hippy stubbing out your last joint; next the stroppy teenager with acne. You are one mixed up feller!

Sorry, good morning. Hope all is well in darkest Northamptonshire. I for one totally agree with your point. Let's start getting positive about our Claude. Les has annointed him after due process. Has anyone clicked that Les seems to have told Pellegrini that he didn't want him. That's a big call. Les has form on this choosing managers malarkey. I trust him to deliver.
 
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Missing Lambo said:
Yeah? Bloody hell, flt, one minute you sound like an old hippy stubbing out your last joint; next the stroppy teenager with acne. You are one mixed up feller!

Sorry, good morning. Hope all is well in darkest Northamptonshire. I for one totally agree with your point. Let's start getting positive about our Claude. Les has annointed him after due process. Has anyone clicked that Les seems to have told Pellegrini that he didn't want him. That's a big call. Les has form on this choosing managers malarkey. I trust him to deliver.
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Young at heart. Ageing in body!
 
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Wins help with perception of course, but I think Claude should have addressed some concerns I read on here early doors.

The Diamond has been tweaked.
Claude is not some stubborn one system coach and we've seen the system is a 4-3-3. That's the main system and how we arrange those front six men is flexible.
 
SaintinSerbia said:
As a man who lives on the bank of the Danube I hope you didn't sail by without waving hello!
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Our whole trip was rescheduled after a lock was damaged when a ship ran into a gate. Our sister ship was trapped the wrong side and had to visit Serbia instead of Hungary, Slovakia and Austria, but we neve r got there. I am blowing you a kiss now. X
 
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