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Match Day Thread Super, Super Saints v Sunderland, Sat 27 August, 3PM

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Saints Fan4Life, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    Can anyone think of another word to use instead of "pilot"?
     
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  2. Shepherd's Clearing

    Shepherd's Clearing Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why but the line 'a ruddy great crack in it' makes me laugh. Thank goodness for that. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  3. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    We know we still have talent....and I agree it is confusing to see them looking a bit lost. Perhaps it isn't that the new system is bad, but it is taking up too much of their brain space trying to adjust to a new system. Seems to have robbed them of their joie de vivre.
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    That's probably hysteria. :)
     
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  5. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    No but they are very inflexible. And suddenly became a lot less popular after 2008.
     
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  6. AL.

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    The system is dreadful - we have good enough players, but we need movement, pace and width going forward. That has been lacking thus far.
     
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  7. Lff

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    You seem to understand the diamond. I asked earlier if anyone could explain what it's strengths are, no one has stepped up yet. Perhaps you could explain it?
     
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  8. Brixham Saint

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    Tony Husband has tweeted "very early days but after doing post match iv's today, you sense #saintsfc players still wrestling with tactics of Puel?
     
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  9. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

    I Sorry I Ruined The Party Well-Known Member

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    We started off brightly and looked very good for about 15 minutes. We were pretty terrible the rest of the first half.

    The start second half, we were not as bad. We did a better job on defense and were able to keep possession and dictate play to some extent. But I think the consensus is that we really weren't creating good chances and it was just pointless back-and-forth diamond tactic passing. I am somewhat defending the diamond, but I think I'm the only one.

    Then Fonte gave up a stupid penalty. Then we threw a bunch of attackers on, and Sunderland tried to park the bus. Rodriguez got a somewhat lucky goal that looked like it took just enough of a deflection to throw Pickford off and squirm underneath him.

    Would say the general consensus (with a few dissenters) was that VVD and Targett were good. Fonte was bad. Diamond formation was bad. Puel was bad because he played the diamond, but if he stops doing that he might be okay.
     
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  10. Beef

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    Damn just seen Van Dijk slamming the system.

    "Players don't know what they are doing. The tactics aren't good enough".
     
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  11. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    In my head it should, if executed well, allow you to play two up front (a luxury rarely afforded for many a year, since 4-4-2 went out of fashion pre-Leciester) and play a creative talent behind, in a fairly free role. I'm not sure one of those strikers is meant to flicking back and forth between CM, and the other back and forth between RM, though.

    But even if executed well, it still leaves you short out wide and, in particular, in front of the defence. It can't be a coincidence that you hardly ever see it.

    Having midfielders who can consistently hit the target from distance also appears to be quite an important of the system.
     
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  12. Brixham Saint

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    But on a positive note Andy Leventhal has tweeted that he has been told that Boufal medical will be done tomorrow. :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  13. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Ouch.
     
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  14. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    Yikes.
     
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  15. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Time for a clear the air team meeting methinks.
     
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  16. Brixham Saint

    Brixham Saint Well-Known Member

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    And this is coming from one of our best players from last season.
     
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  17. fatletiss

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    Probably the best post I've read here today.
     
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  18. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Indeed someone who is, I would argue, head and shoulders the best player in our squad right now.
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Which may be the forerunner to a change of system...
     
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  20. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Is that an exact quote? Pretty damning if so.

    Very worrying.
     
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