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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    blood swapping. epo. stem cell injections... steroids are so far in the past they are no relevant any more.

    when people turn up having never been seen in a junior comp then run mega fast times from china etc its always possible they've been pump up then the body is ready to go and now clean.

    you can never known clean means clean always.... its a snap shot in time.. based on what they look for.

    all clean means is you didnt find what you know to look for.... today. it doesn't mean you font take dangerous substances with a view to cheat.
     
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  2. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    It is the number of positive tests that is significant not the number of clean ones. Lance Armstrong was tested positive many times but somehow managed to evade the consequences. He used all sorts of means (bribery, blackmail. collusion of colleagues) to escape. As to the high red cell count, they use EPO (or erythropoetin) which is natural substance whioch incease red cell production. A few athletes and cyclists have been tested positive for EPO too. Some use their own stored blood to enhance their operformance and some go to live in high altitude but as these are legal they are all entitled to do it (and they do) to get that marginal advantage.
     
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  3. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    If it is legal then they will all do it. At least it is a level playing field. If one does drug doping then they should all do it as to level things up.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    thats the sharapova argument..

    i only got caught cos you added my drug of choice to the list and i forgot to listen
     
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  5. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Don't worry about the drugs. You know why Team GB did well. Support a good cause, buy a lottery ticket <ok>
     
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  6. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    The average GP competitor in the Olympics received >>>> money from external sources than anyone else in the world. FFP for the Olympics?
     
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  7. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    It also meant less money going to sports in deprived areas in the UK. And following these Olympics the lottery money will be disproprtionately distributed in favour of those events that we did well in.

    Maybe a cap on £ per event would be better?
     
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  8. Stan

    Stan Stalker

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    Could be worse, could be North Korean.

    "Those who won medals will be rewarded with better housing allocations, better rations, a car and maybe other gifts from the regime, but Kim is going to be angry and disappointed at these results," said Toshimitsu Shigemura, a professor at Tokyo's Waseda University and an authority on the North Korean leadership.

    "Those he feels have let him down are likely to be punished by being moved to poorer quality housing, having their rations reduced and, in the worst-case scenario, being sent to the coal mines as punishment."
     
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  9. BobbyD

    BobbyD President

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    Haven't followed olympic news much since until recently as i was a bit young to be interested in the olympics when i was younger.

    You are correct there was state sponsored doping in the 80's and 90's. There have also been numerous athletes that have been banned doping so that's a shame that it's still happening.

    As for the Beijing olympics, tried searching for didn't find anything for chinese athletes there. There's been 2 at in the last 16 years including the 1 in Rio and 1 in London. Even the USA have more than that and theres no call of state sponsored doping there even though it's been known to have overlooked misdemeanors of there athletes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_at_the_Olympic_Games#2008_Beijing

    http://features.thesundaytimes.co.uk/web/public/2015/the-doping-scandal/index.html#/

    The dodgy looking blood passports of chinese athletes were 5%, same as USA and GB behind just with 4%.

    I would in no way accuse Mo of doping even though his coach is known to supply this trainers with drugs.

    I may or may not disagree with this 4 year training cycle for the olympics, but using that as logic, you could apply that to any athlete (i guess if they were young enough) suddenly coming out of no where to storm it because they've been training for the olympics. Likewise i'm sure people get insulted when that German cyclist called out British Cycling being absolutely useless between london 2012-2016, it's the same when people call foul play no matter what nationality.

    Yes weightlifting is dodgy as **** XD
     
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  10. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Faucet was just the first word I thought of <laugh>

    The funniest pronunciation of a word that Americans use is 'erb for herb - all the other examples you gave [and others] I can understand but where does the dropped 'h' come from.
     
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  11. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    How many Tour de France's?
     
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  12. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    FFS <doh>
     
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  13. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Get to **** <laugh>
     
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  14. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    Well Froome only got a bronze <whistle> #failure
     
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  15. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    A lot of the American weird pronunciations actually have their roots in Britain. Take the word Zebra. The weird Zeeebra pronunciation actually comes from one Scottish local dialect. A lot of other weird pronunciations come from local dialects in other parts of Britain but became standardised in the US (even if they've since gone out of favour in their origin point).

    The American accent and pronunciation of words is actually supposed to be more similar to 1600's and 1700's English than the current accents in Britain.


    Words like Herb fit under this. Back in the 1600s it was actually spelt Erb. It was pronounced erb both sides of the Atlantic. I'm not sure why the h was added to the spelling but when it was Brits started pronouncing it but Americans didn't.
     
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  16. BobbyD

    BobbyD President

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    Glad i'm amusing you so much RHC :p.
     
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  17. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather they put more money into stuff like Athletics and cycling and even less into rubbish like modern pentathlon and fencing.
     
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  18. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Lets hope they're not giving any money to dressage. Those toff ****ers can pay for it themselves.
     
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  19. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    As if it wasn't bad enough watching Olympics overload for the last 16 days 24/7 we now have to have weeks of sycholphantic fawning on every bloody programme as every channel clamours to get them on to talk about complete bollox.

    Miserable I know but we're British and in true tradition I just want them to disappear now. I'm happy for them but it's cringe (probably as much for them standing there, as much as it is for us watching).
     
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  20. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    They've got Land Rover paying for them as well.
     
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