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The Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    God help us all....<yikes>
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    How much bait did you buy at the weekend? I hope it was cheap, cos it aint going to land you anything!

    For a bloke who doesn't do fishing you seem to have a few lines in the water.
    Not got a problem with it, but don't have a fecking hissy fit when I get my own back....... Let's leave that to the sweatties. <cheers>
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    You mrs must love bedtime then!
     
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  4. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    FFS ... what is it with the constant fcuking moaning ... let's support our team rather than constantly break them down ... I sometimes wonder if people actually understand Marching On Together

    ANOTHER PLAYER WE'VE NEVER HEARD OF
    so who cares ... if VroomVroom turns out to be an awesome left back for Leeds (if we actually sign him) then it shouldn't matter that we've never heard of him ... tell you what, who played left back for AC Milan last season ... name the Real Madrid bench for the Champions Lge final ... who scored the most goals for Ajax last season ... who is goalkeeper for Hamburg SV ... if it's a European player we've heard of, he'll probably be an international and cost us £25m ... you didn't know who the fcuk Payet was when he came to England, or Mahrez and Kante when they joined Leicester ... I can go on (Antonnson for example) but I'm sure you get the point

    MONK IS CLUELESS
    no he isn't ... Monk is the best manager we've had since our Prem days, and he will get us going, but he needs everyone's support ... people bang on about how he inherited Laudrup's team, so anyone could have won with that lot, but that theory is total rubbish ... Swansea were not a team of stars, they were simply a capable team in the Prem good enough to avoid a relegation dogfight ... Monk got them playing his way, and pushed them to finish an unexpected 8th in his only full season ... managers he came up against praised him for his professionalism and style of play, and his peers still rate him highly ... yes, Swansea struggled the next season, but they lost players (just like Leicester have lost their best player to Chelsea) and, more importantly, they couldn't cope with the sudden expectation that they now have to achieve at least top 8 in the Prem ... very different pressure to coming from nowhere without expectation ... their chairman panicked too early, but good for us

    CELLINO IS KILLING LEEDS
    the guy is a fcuking nob, for sure, and his ego can be a dangerous thing ... I will celebrate as much as anyone else the day he packs his lunchbox and gets out of Dodge, but right now I can't berate him ... he's finally swallowed his pride and given us a proper manager ... he's supported Monk and as such we have an improved squad ... he managed to get us stupid money for a kid who was clearly not going to play for us again, and hopefully he can do the same with Taylor if we get a replacement in ... he's kept his mouth shut so far this summer and allowed Monk to get on with it ... yes, he took too long to get the new manager in, but at least it's the right manager ... Cellino still has to go, but for now he's behaved totally against type and hopefully it continues while he's here

    WOOD IS USELESS
    no he isn't ... he scored 13 goals last season despite missing a chunk through injury ... confidence is everything to a striker, so it doesn't help slagging him off after one iffy performance ... yes, we do need another striker, and Wood can do with a striker alongside him up front ... most importantly, he needs a team that creates chances, with midfielders pushing on to pressure defences and wide runners getting beyond the strikers to help create space ... it's not down to Wood alone

    IT'S A CONSPIRACY
    no it isn't ... let's take Berardi ... the lad has battled injuries, he loves to play for Leeds and he's a 110-percenter for sure ... I absolutely get his frustration at having to limp off after 15 minutes in the first game with a new injury, not his previous ankle injury ... he was not angry at Monk, he was devasted and angry because he had worked so hard to get back, sweated blood and shed tears working alone with the physios day after day ... shocking to hear people claim, without any knowledge at all, that Monk was fed up with Berardi so replaced him with Coyle so early in the game ... it's this kind of tripe that is poisonous, even malicious, and when it get's legs and starts spreading across the terraces it's very damaging ... we can do without these negative perceptions being created

    WE ARE CURSED
    well, maybe we are .... or is it just the simple fact that all the negativity manifests itself in the brickwork at Elland Road and everything we wish for (manager to fail, best players sold, strikers not scoring so they can get dropped) comes to pass ... we can be positive through thick and thin, and this positivity will breed a winning culture ... no club can be successful in a poisonous atmosphere, it's demotivating and doesn't benefit anyone

    morning btw


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  5. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Peace and love bro....
    Those must be some serious smokes you are ingesting... care to share?
     
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  6. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    hey Glory ... I wish brother, I wish ... it just rips my heart out that we give up on our team, our manager and our season so quickly ... I desperately want this club I've followed for 51 years to get back to the Prem and be a force again ... everyone outside Leeds United who understands the game says football needs them at the top, not just in England but in Europe

    they say this because of our magnificent supporters, who they recognise as being of the best in the world ... well, now it's time for our support to stop moaning and to get behind the boys, to make that difference and to show the world why they're right to want us back at the top

    nothing else matters, just our influence to make our players believe they are unbeatable, that they can walk in water, and the opposition fearing a visit to Elland Road ... we are the difference, we the supporters, but not as a negative, divided bunch


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  7. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    I feel your pain, but you need to feel some of that experienced by those who see the whole circus just repeating itself.
    I used to be optimistic (honestly) and not question how we became so poor. But time and the most recent crook to take us over has changed me into a realist. The game doesn't need us at the top, but as supporter we should not accept not being there or there abouts.
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Sure you were, but only while pushing your way out of your mothers womb, it ended ten minutes later <doh>
     
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  9. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on Billy, as usual <ok>
     
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    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Ok mate I'll try to remember to check it out the next time we have a day out there. <ok>
     
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    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Real Madrid Bench
    Kiko Casilla
    Nacho
    James Rodríguez
    Lucas Vázquez
    Jesé
    Isco
    Danilo

    Ajax Leading Scorer
    Arkadiusz Milik

    Milan LB
    Luca Antonelli

    Hamburg SV Keeper
    Rene Adler

    Now then, WTF is Verboom ;) ;) ;)
     
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  12. Whitejock

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    Possibly the post of the year, Billy. Very insightful & a clarion call for all true supporters (& fans).
     
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  13. w.c.dukenfieldesq

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    You saw passion I saw tantrum.
     
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  14. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Nice one Billy - another realist like Eire and CliveJock that are now happy to accept aa mishmash of sub-standard players that replace those worth cashing in on!! The other moaning cnuts have their expectation barriers (mid-tabledom) way too high.


    Do as Billy says chaps - even if its dogshite, its your dogshite. Enjoy the ride Massimo is taking you on - its all downhill and you wont get out of breath !!
     
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  15. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    Nice one Bilbo as plenty of us are trying to stay optimistic.

    Question for you all though, when we mention our so-called brilliant fans. Newcastle guaranteed 57,000 every home game we struggle to get 20,000. Massive difference and yes our fans were shafted for years under Bates and as we've been outside the prem for 12-years we lost a whole generation of kids. Newcastle shafted by their owner too and have been up and down from the prem in those 12 years. Still not good reading thoug is it.

    If we get promoted you can guarantee 44,000 every home game, however 20,000 will be glory fans and corporate. The UK's 3rd largest city and a one club city should be getting well over 30,000 every home game.

    #justsaying
     
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  16. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Do remember the 12000 the barcodes used to get in the mid 80's..
    Their city has nothing but footie, Leeds has 2 rugby teams and a cricket team so when it goes belly up there are alternatives.
    A couple of seasons in the CC and their attendances would drop off. There is not one of us wouldn't swap their players, coach, ground and set up with ours. Ashley is only playing at being a bad owner compared what he have had!
     
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  17. BoggersMOT

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    If.... sorry, when we go up, the local council/club will have to giver serious thought as to how the ground is expanded to take 40k+ each home game
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    well have to buy the damn thing first <doh>
     
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  19. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    A bridge we wont need to cross this side of Cellino packing his bags and the apologists taking out season tickets for the GAA and Highland League respectively........
     
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  20. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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