1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Ellis Short, love him or hate him?

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by J๏E.., Aug 3, 2016.

  1. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    Who's said that? He's clearly not. He's just ****ing up.
     
    #21
  2. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    10,790
    Likes Received:
    4,922
    He probably is. No one on here knows he is or isn't.

    Its about wait and see at the minute.
     
    #22
  3. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,237
    Likes Received:
    6,919
    I have to disagree mate, I think we are a big asset to him at the moment, I think he's a devious man and knows exactly what's what..<ok>
     
    #23
    Makemstine Roger likes this.
  4. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    Happy for him to prove me wrong like despite everything I've said.
     
    #24
  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,812
    Likes Received:
    150,376
    Can someone tell me what Short gets out of SAFC?
     
    #25
    JustMeMan likes this.
  6. Home_and_Away

    Home_and_Away Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2013
    Messages:
    4,492
    Likes Received:
    2,605
    Tick Tock :emoticon-0158-time:
     
    #26

  7. Home_and_Away

    Home_and_Away Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2013
    Messages:
    4,492
    Likes Received:
    2,605
    Me and you both marra :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #27
    Brian Storm likes this.
  8. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,237
    Likes Received:
    6,919
    Don't want to answer a question with a question but I will, just what does Safc get out of Short?

    10 years in the Prem, for him at least 8 years of money, TV money and whatever else, a great portfolio being attached to the biggest football league in the world and still crawling around the floor as a team because he milks us to probably generate cash for his other ****e......I did say probably..

    So what do we get out of it mate?
     
    #28
  9. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    I do too. We put 48k arses on seats, have a fantastic stadium and state of the art facilities in the richest league in the world and our sponship is inside the top ten in the league. We've bags of assests. They only thing making us unattractive is the club debt that he's accumulated. Need to see him doing something to put that right instead of just going through the motions repeating patterns. I refuse to be grateful for money he's putting into the club when the debt we're in is of his creation. Put enough money in to clear the debt ffs Short. You've accumulated it.
     
    #29
    J๏E.. likes this.
  10. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    Again, who's saying he is getting anything out of it? I'd like to dispute it.
     
    #30
    J๏E.. likes this.
  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,812
    Likes Received:
    150,376
    I'm just asking the question, what does he get out of owning SAFC ......... certainly no kudos or glory.

    Does he just crave spending time at Whitley Bay or Seaham Catholic Club?
     
    #31
  12. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2012
    Messages:
    48,871
    Likes Received:
    16,295
    Well he's not getting anything out of it. Don't see the relevance sorry fella.
     
    #32
  13. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,237
    Likes Received:
    6,919
    If he gets here 4 times a year the club will be lucky, probably back next May, flapping as usual..
     
    #33
  14. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,237
    Likes Received:
    6,919
    He has the Kudos of being at the top of a football club with a phenomenal past in an area that worships the great fans and an area that never shy's away from a fight, people that were prepared to go miles underground to keep people warm, risk life and limb to see their team play on a Saturday afternoon. If he can not take glory from that then he really needs to **** off, he is representing a great club that represents a whole area of people that use the club as a bond. Personally, I think he is a chancer, pocket liner and bullshitter, the sooner he is gone the better..
     
    #34
    Makemstine Roger likes this.
  15. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,812
    Likes Received:
    150,376
    I don't find much kudos in that mate and I'm the most fanatical Sunderland supporter you'll ever meet.

    Mention SAFC and people either shrug or grin tbh.
     
    #35
  16. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    17,916
    Likes Received:
    16,472
    Can't disagree
    Money money
    I afraid is the way forward it's sad but if you can't compete
    It good by to the premiership.
    We can't just hold on and hold on for years
    It's big spending or we are gone
     
    #36
    Brian Storm and Makemstine Roger like this.
  17. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2011
    Messages:
    4,244
    Likes Received:
    103
    If it wasn't for Short we would probably already be knackered, when drumaville left luckily Short was there to take over the reigns, but that was 8 years ago.

    I believe it was his appointments at back room level that has held us back, DOF doesnt work for a team like ours, its ok for the big teams who can spend 20m-100m on the best players without breaking a sweat, it's a lot different when they are trying to wheel and deal on a 5m player. A Manager should be a Manager for a team like us, not a coach who just coaches the players.

    I can't be bothered to work it out again, but I believe 48,000 in our stadium only equates to about 16m a year, that's one half decent player these days, or 1/5 (about) of our total wages for the year.

    Is he skimming off the top, I hope not but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was, as for investment now, let's see what we do in the next few weeks.

    Our problem is, we don't really have any saleable assets/players that could get us ~20m each, last one was Henderson, we were over the moon when we got 3.5m for Waghorn.

    I don't think it's all his fault, he is the boss though, so should take the brunt of the blame.

    Last thing as someone else said, be careful what we wish for, he sells to someone 100* worse, they could be 100* better as well, because Short hasnt exactly set the world on fire since being here.
     
    #37
  18. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    64,812
    Likes Received:
    150,376
    Nowt is it?
     
    #38
  19. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    69,073
    Likes Received:
    147,345
    tight arsed ****, in it for profit so **** him
     
    #39
  20. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    8,237
    Likes Received:
    6,919
    It's called jealousy mate..<ok>

    I will post photos next week of me in Manila in Sunderland attire..<laugh>

    Nowt worse than jealousy from people that could hardly hold a conversation with another, let alone a full ground of people from all different backgrounds that have so much to say on match day's..

    Mr Short, doesn't realise how lucky he is..
     
    #40
    Makemstine Roger likes this.

Share This Page