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  1. DEREK ROY HENDERSON

    DEREK ROY HENDERSON Active Member

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    Today I read in a newspaper that DM says we have posted two offers for players and we are interested in several more, however, negotiations take time. From what I can gather reading between the lines it would appear that we will be starting the season well below par for a strong squad. This seems to be the norm for SAFC. Yes, we have had the problem with SA and the FA but surely we had identified several positions that needed strengthening and had candidates to fill these. Why then is it taking so long to bring in new faces. Feel that this is going to be the same old SAFC playing once again catch up on points needed to avoid relegation . Can someone please tell me what is the difference with our transfer system and the rest of the teams in the EPL.
     
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  2. Home_and_Away

    Home_and_Away Well-Known Member

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    Ours is appalling and medieval !!!
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    We only ever look at the clubs, like Man Utd, signing players and ignore the likes of Hull etc who are doing nowt.

    Our side is decent and doesn't need many additions ......... Moyes will sort it and all this speculation will have been futile <ok>
     
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    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    Genuinely think that this time around it has purely been out the weeks of speculation and then losing Big Sam and bringing a new manager in
     
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  5. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    We're restricted financially and lost our manager just as a window opened.
     
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  6. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    To a degree but let's not get carried away with the idea that we're on our arses .......... Short will sanction purchases as he's done before.
     
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  7. Home_and_Away

    Home_and_Away Well-Known Member

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    It's the teams like Palace, Stoke , Bournemouth & West Brom we need to be able to compete with ?!
     
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  8. Nostalgic

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    We are no different to any other club, transfers are so complicated nowadays, unless daft money is involved.
     
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  9. Home_and_Away

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    Agree, but other teams seem to be able to do it without the Borini/MVila type dramas
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    I'm not. But but we're limited compared to our rivals and that's enough to make life harder for us.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Who are they?
     
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  12. red&white wanderer

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    I would live to agree with you but I'm not sure that Moyes will have same effect on the buys of BSA as he had - feel Moyes has too much to do - we need strengthening badly - we are significantly depleted from last seasons over performing team - quality players needed - Kone to Everton deal will soon be done imo - but I'm still positive underneath these concerns :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  13. Brian Storm

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    Who do you think?
     
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    Hull are an exceptionally bad case. Other than that West Brom and Burnley are the only other teams who have been quiet and Brom seem like they're getting Sakho now. There's time to rectify the situation and no panic for weeks yet but the frustration is that players coming in now will have pretty much missed pre-season and the last week of trading often feels a bit of a desperate gamble. There are benefits to getting them in sooner.
     
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  15. Home_and_Away

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    I'm confident that ES & DM will get players in, it's the August curse yet again tho isn't it...
    We need players firing on all cylinders at the start of the season, not 5 or 6 games into it.
    This previously has put pressure on us at the end of the window as we desperately try to tempt players to come to a team destined for yet another relegation battle and also clubs then know we are desperate and 'screw' us for more cash !
    A good start is beneficial for so many different reasons.
     
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    Borini hanging on at Liverpool until he was told he had no future. M'Villa is a who knows situation, visa, transfer fee, or just plain it is nearly done.
     
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  17. Canny Lad

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    Even Hull have made signings and look at the mess they are in. So why do we have the excuse of the manager change; surely we could have brought back M'Villa nad DeYedlin.
    Apart from Everton and WBA who have only signed 1 player each but have a stronger baseline than us.
    All the other teams have been fairly active. Full list below from F365

    ARSENAL INS: Granit Xhaka (£33.8m, Borussia Monchengladbach), Rob Holding (£2m, Bolton), Takuma Asano (undisclosed, Sanfrecce Hiroshima).

    BOURNEMOUTH INS: Jordon Ibe (£15m, Liverpool), Lewis Cook (£7m, Leeds), Lys Mousset (£5.4m, Le Havre), Brad Smith (£3m, Liverpool),Emerson Hyndman (free, Fulham), Mikael Ndjoli (free, Millwall), Nathan Ake (loan, Chelsea).

    BURNLEY INS:Johann Berg Gudmundsson (£2.5m, Charlton), Nick Pope (£1.1m, Charlton).

    CHELSEA INS: Michy Batshuayi (£33m, Marseille), N’Golo Kante (£30m, Leicester City).

    CRYSTAL PALACE INS: Andros Townsend (£13m, Newcastle), James Tomkins (£10m, West Ham), Steve Mandanda (£1.5m, Marseille).

    EVERTON INS:Maarten Stekelenburg (£850,000, Fulham).

    HULL INS: Jonathan Edwards (free, Peterborough), Will Mannion (free, AFC Wimbledon)

    LEICESTER CITY INS:Ahmed Musa (£16.6m, CSKA Moscow), Nampalys Mendy (£13m, Nice), Ron-Robert Zieler (£3m, Hannover), Luis Hernandez (free, Sporting Gijon), Raul Uche (undisclosed, Rayo Vallecano).

    LIVERPOOL INS: Sadio Mane (£34m, Southampton), Georginio Wijnaldum (£25m, Newcastle), Loris Karius (£4.7m, Mainz), Ragnar Klavan (£4.2m, Augsburg), Alex Manninger (free, Augsburg), Joel Matip (free, Schalke).

    MANCHESTER CITY INS: Leroy Sane (£37m, Schalke), Ilkay Gundogan (£20.3m, Borussia Dortmund), Nolito (£13.8m, Celta Vigo), Oleksandr Zinchenko (£1.7m, FC Ufa), Aaron Mooy (free, Melbourne City).

    MANCHESTER UNITED INS:Eric Bailly (£30m, Villarreal), Henrikh Mkhitaryan (£26.3m, Borussia Dortmund) and Zlatan Ibrahimovic (free, Paris Saint-Germain).

    MIDDLESBROUGH INS: Marten de Roon (£12m, Atalanta), Viktor Fischer (£3.8m, Ajax), Antonio Barragan (£1.5m, Valencia), Alvaro Negredo (loan, Valencia), Brad Guzan (free, Aston Villa), Victor Valdes (free, Manchester United), Bernardo Espinosa (free, Sporting Gijon), Gaston Ramirez (free, Southampton), Jordan McGhee (loan, Hearts).

    SOUTHAMPTON INS: Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (£12.8m, Bayern Munich), Nathan Redmond (£10m, Norwich), Alex McCarthy (undisclosed, Crystal Palace), Jeremy Pied (free, Nice).

    STOKE CITY INS:Joe Allen (£13m, Liverpool), Ramadan Sobhi (£5million, Al Ahly)

    SUNDERLAND INS:

    SWANSEA CITY INS: Leroy Fer (£4.75m, QPR), Mike van der Hoorn (£2m, Ajax), Tyler Reid (undisclosed, Manchester United), Mark Birighitti (free, Newcastle Jets), George Byers (free, Watford).

    TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR INS:Vincent Janssen (£17m, AZ Alkmaar), Victor Wanyama (£11m, Southampton).

    WATFORD INS:Isaac Success (£8.25m, Granada), Christian Kabasele (£6m, Genk), Jerome Sinclair (£4m, Liverpool), Brice Dja Djedje (£4m, Marseille), Juan Camilo Zuniga (loan, Napoli).

    WEST BROMWICH ALBION INS: Matt Phillips (£5.5m, QPR).

    WEST HAM UNITED INS: Manuel Lanzini (£9.4m, Al Jazira Club), Toni Martinez (£2.5m, Valencia), Havard Nordtveit (free, Borussia Monchengladbach), Domingos Quina (free, Benfica), Sofiane Feghouli (free, Valencia), Gokhan Tore (loan, Besiktas), Ashley Fletcher (free, Manchester United).
     
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  18. Commachio

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    Even Hull have made signings and look at the mess they are in. So why do we have the excuse of the manager change; surely we could have brought back M'Villa nad DeYedlin.

    Im not understanding that bit. Maybe a new manager would want either. It changes everything
     
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  19. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Yeh it appears
    There is no reason why mville and yedlin
    Are not here
     
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  20. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    But there is a reason vince. New manager.
     
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