I really like this article, as much as I crave success I'm very much a football romantic and a lot of what Klopp says here I agree with. I'd love us to build a team and beat the big boys without the need for the traditional big Summer signing. Not that we don't spend lets not pretend we don't have money but we're not looking at huge money compared to the likes of Chelsea, City and Utd. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...lopp-unconcerned-liverpool-fc-rivals-11678401 Jurgen Klopp says the spending power of Liverpool’s Premier League rivals doesn’t bother him as he insisted: “I want to do it differently.” The Reds have brought in six new signings this summer at a cost of around £65million with Marko Grujic also arriving following the £5.1million move he agreed back in January. Liverpool have recouped around £40million in sales and their outlay is set to be dwarfed by the likes of Manchester City, Chelsea and Manchester United, who are all working on bumper deals which far exceed the Reds’ most extravagant purchase – the £30million swoop for Southampton’s Sadio Mane. However, Klopp is adamant he isn’t jealous of the cash being splashed by Pep Guardiola, Antonio Conte and Jose Mourinho. “If you bring one player in for £100million or whatever and he gets injured then it all goes through the chimney,” Klopp said. “The day that this is football, I’m not in a job any more, because the game is about playing together. That is why somebody invented passes so these players can play together. It’s not about running with the ball because you can do it all the time. “Building the group is not my unique idea – it is necessary to be successful in football. “Other clubs can go out and spend more money and collect top players, yes. Do I have to do it differently to that? “Actually, I want to do it differently. I would even do it differently if I could spend that money. “I don’t know exactly how much money we could spend because nobody has told me up to this point ‘no, no, no you can’t do this’. If I spend money it is because I am trying to build a real team. “You can win championships, you can win titles. But maybe there is a manner in which you want it. It is about how it is.” United are working on a world record £100million deal for Juventus midfielder Paul Pogba, while City will have to break the £50million mark to land Everton defender John Stones. Chelsea have already spent big on Leicester’s N’Golo Kante and Marseille’s Michy Batshuayi and are now pursuing £40million-rated Napoli defender Kalidou Koulibaly. Klopp’s success at Borussia Dortmund was based on developing world class talent rather than buying it and he’s sticking to that approach at Anfield. “If you all swim in the same pool, the pool is too small - you all go for the same players,” Klopp said. “There are a lot of players outside that pool - good players on to the next step in their career. We try to find them. “The best player of the last season is good to know but it is more interesting trying to find out who will be the best next year. “If you knew it now that would be a really cool transfer! It would be much cheaper too. That is what we work for. “It is not about being creative because creative is cool or something. It is about finding the players who can make the next step with us.” Asked if he would ever do a deal like the Pogba one, Klopp added: “I’m not really interested in things from other clubs. They can do what they want and spend as much as they want. “I don’t know exactly how much we have spent so far. For five or six players we could have bought one player for the same money but I don’t care. “I have no influence on what other clubs do so why should I think about it? I am not the moral guardian of the league. I won’t say ‘oh, come on, that’s too much money’. “We’ve spent a lot of money. It’s all about perspective. I am pretty sure it will stop somewhere. “(Gonzalo) Higuain! (who went from Napoli to Juventus for £75.3million). Whatever. Where there is money somebody else will take it. That’s how it is in the football business. It’s not my problem. “If we are convinced someone is the right player then we think about money. Then we have the price, then we have to ask and work at it. “Is this something we should do? If we agree then we will do it but only then for the right price.”
Its all fine as long as you are not making do. making do is knowing a player isn't up to it (like moreno) If you are trying to be really smart in the market and buy really talent guys... and that is very hard when others are hoovering them up like dortmund then you can develop a group over time. The issue is we've seen how one bully in germany can strip you bare to ensure they continue to win.. well in the UK we have 3 bullies who will pick up any talent. I agree on the mad mad money. higuin for 75mil is madness. he did well at napoli and there is all that utd money for juve to spend but theres no value there. none. I would be quite happy with this line: "“If you all swim in the same pool, the pool is too small - you all go for the same players,” Klopp said. “There are a lot of players outside that pool - good players on to the next step in their career. We try to find them." Thats why looking at guys like karius and figuring out is he actually all that is great, looking at Klavan for ourselves now and wondering can he do a hysen type job for us... wondering what is it that he's seen in wijnaldum that newkie fans have not.. etc... I think it requires very very astute peopel though... and klopp needs to build a team on that front cos what we have i feel aint that. He's brought in fitness coach and nutirtionalist this summer. I hope his new deal means he can get shut of edwards in particular but hunter and fallows too and bring in some real talent.
In terms of his personality you've just got to haven't you? He does the right things and says the right things with wit and honesty. This philosophy is nothing new, many of us have argued for years that we'd prefer to see a successful team built rather than bought off the peg. Unfortunately the current market is so ludicrous that any talent other than home-grown costs a fortune anyway. But he follows the right path - it's more important to get a functioning team than a group of dysfunctional individuals. I really hope he succeeds, from an LFC point of view obviously, but also for football in general, and just maybe we'll see some sort of sanity return to the players' meat market.
Look the reality is we paid 34 for mane and 25 for wijnaldum so.............. Its not a one year deal. this is about showing now that the team has genuinely improve in terms of intensity, shape and soundness next season. Barnes said how close to the top in terms of points will we be rather that 4th and 25 points off top is important. In terms of growing a side i think a solid defense and a bit of fight and belief is what we are all looking for initially this season... but those results have to come. it can't be 7th/8th again and player slooking like it doesn't count.
But we're discussing a philosophy of team building, not offering a critique of the team as is. Some of us do enough of that on other threads.
well the proof is in the pudding is what i am saying. the guys there now need to show what they've learned and deliver the results. I am not saying they need to win things i am saying they need to show they have improved, are on the up. it is after all a results business.
I really hope that his philosophy is plain to see on the pitch this season, we could see it at times last year but not often enough. With a full pre-season the players should be fitter and more able to carry out the instructions.
You'd hope that he's also brought in those he thinks will fit his philosophy. This might not be true of all of those he's inherited.
I hope so. just lets see a clear this is LFC under klopp and if half the players just are ordinary then it will show in the higher quality games. It annoys me SO MUCH that they could play v city then lose v watford.. cos they didn't look arsed. If you play the same each week, then when you play a better side it should be harder not easier. If LFC won say of the 20 games we play v bottom half.... 15 games. thats 45 points. leaving only 25 points to get out of 18 games or in other words 8 wins out of 19 v top half and one draw.... wouldnt we be happy?
The big game mentality has to go it's pathetic, each game is just as important. We need to build a team spirit so that each and every player on that pich wants to fight for each other, that's what makes a team.
Isn't this self-contradictory? If they are ordinary but can still win in the big games then they can win in the lesser games. If ordinary can beat City then ordinary ain't so bad. It's about having the right attitude all the time, not just a perceived difference in individual talent. This is what we all hope the Klopp Factor will be, because we're certainly not going to be getting a collection of Galacticos any time soon.
wel lthey don't win every big game.. they just lift thier game v city then the next week lose terribly. examples: beat cheslea well then lost to palace. hammer everton in derby then draw to newkie we hammered city then played awful against swansea last year and won by a lucky pen. then we ride that one and go lose the next game playing awful v newkie Its not all bad but its not consistent. I get your point about talent v attitude. Attitude can get you so far for sure. an that what i am saying about improvement. I don't think the talent is there to get really high in the table but if the attitude is right we will improve and then its about how much more over time we can improve in talent too.
Until Pogba confirms then Liverpool have spent more this window than anyone in the League so far. Poor old Kloppy having to make do with £34m strikers, poor lamb.
wingers... lets get it right... winger and a 25mil... something nobody knows what yet. we'd never spend 34 or 5 mil on a striker like
We've spent the most but have bought in 6 players, Sky were doing something like this the other day. Compare that to Chelsea who have spent £55m (we've spent about £66m) on only two players, will be even higher if they get that £38m defender. We've also not bought any strikers this window.
So we've done almost all our deals and we've spent more than clubs who haven't done their main deals yet. Brilliant.
Loris Karius has broken his hand and will be out for 8 to 10 weeks. Flying home from #LFCtour today. James Pearce. Ffs!
