What on earth are you on about? You've changed the subject completely and then filled in my half of a hypothetical conversation. Bizarre. I've not said anything about how to deal with a problem. Let's try and stay on topic. I just asked for a list of times I've accused the Allams of something which turned out to be untrue. You made that bold claim as you have done many times before and it's complete bollocks so I'm challenging it. Where's the list? How come you get to demand lists from other posters and then loudly declare that 'none was forthcoming' after opting to quietly ignore the ones that don't suit you, yet when you make a direct and personal claim about me you don't have to provide a list? You seem to be on some strange mission to discredit certain posters. Fact is you have an issue with OLM over the sear moves and seemingly by association the Trust, and somehow that brings me into it too. I'm not interested in silly cyber wars. Just leave me out of it or back up your claims.
I've changed **** all. You just got the first bit wrong. My reply wasn't to Ben. Then you've gone off asking for proof of something that's already posted. All you do is get confused and defensive and display other Allamesque qualities. I don't need to discredit you, you do a fine job of that yourself. My point is still that whining away on here about real or imagined slights will resolve absolutely **** all. The proof of that is the fact you've been whining for long enough, and you're still whining about all the same things. You're creating division and negativity in the process. It's really quite simple, who can change the slights you whine about? 99% are resolved by either getting the PL/FL to enforced their rules if they're broken (which so far is seemingly none), or to campaign to get the rule created or changed. Why not put your efforts in to something positive and productive?
You know full well that I and others are already doing exactly what you're calling for as part of our roles with the trust. What are you doing to help? You seem to be far more passionate about discrediting people who you claim to be on the same side as. All you post on here now is digs at the same few people. But of course, you're not an apologist. I know how good you are at dragging these things on but I'm really not interested. I resent being criticised in a way that you refuse to back up but that's what you do on here. It's cowardly.
For the record, in my original post I didn't accuse the Allams of breaking rules or rulings. Although they have.
Well you say that I had a massive issue with non matching, but very similar, socks the other day I'm pretty sure, and comfortable with the fact, that it was their fault I propose a black card protest, with every card a slightly different shade!
You jumped into this thread, and then ask to be left out of it. I don't refuse to back it up, you know full well you do it, as do others, it's **** all to do with being 'cowardly' and you can resent it all you like. I even offered an example on this thread that you've ignored. I don't know full well what you're doing at all. I do know I gave up pointing out how poor the involvement between the trust and fans is. Perhaps if instead of being over-sensitive and defensive, you actually considered what people are saying, others may have felt inclined to get involved. Who knows, they could just have skills or contacts that seem to be needed. It's actually a positive. I did get involved in a few bits and pieces, some had a trust involvement. The experience left me less likely to bother in the future, as has the attitude on here when anyone dares to have a view that differs from you, but as you're using the clubs name, I'm perfectly entitled to comment, and for you to try to stop discussions is worse than cowardly. It's not discredit, it's constructive criticism, which is a positive thing rather than discrediting. Your posts create more divisions than they need to. There are better ways of dealing with it, and the added bonus is that they render the Allams pretty much irrelevant to the process.
A tad off topic, but just to clear up something PLT claimed. One of a number of replies from you about the shirts you never mentioned. http://www.not606.com/threads/hcst-away-supporters’-initiative-fund-where’s-the-money-gone.295795/page-21#post-7858687 http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/hull...-stance-away/story-26412456-detail/story.html HULL City owners Assem and Ehab Allam appear to be risking more unrest after admitting they've spent none of the Away Supporters Initiative (ASI) money on their own fans. No doubt you'll highlight how you thought the money should have been spent, but that's a separate issue.
What difference do exchange rates make ? The sale price would have been in GB£ not US$......so £100 million is still £100 million If the £ had risen against the $ would the Allams been offering a corresponding reduction ?
But the sale is in GB£........if as speculated this is to be pain in instalments then over that period Sterling could recover & that £6 million could be more than £6 million
It's incredible how consistently you post incorrect rubbish on here. I'd love to see you try and justify your claim about my "obsequious love for all things Allam". I've consistently said that we've had better owners and worse owners & that they've done some good things and some bad things. How that translates into your accusation only you can tell us. Please elucidate.
Have you linked the wrong thing, there's no mention of shirts in that post? Not that it matters, trying to muddy the waters over the shabby misuse of the ASI fund is very sad, it was a disgraceful and deliberate move to piss off Hull City fans.
The bit in bold clearly says the Allams admit none of the ASI money was spent on our fans, I presume ( not going to the HDM site ) that is a quote from them. The t-shirts and flags came from a mystery fund of money that James Mooney found.
That's odd, as I posted all the details in an article on here and you were one of the first people to post on it... http://www.not606.com/threads/hull-city-fans-look-to-strengthen-heritage-rules.305952/ There have been several articles posted on the topic, on the HCST website, on the FSF website, I'll post links should you want any further info.
That claim was always bollocks. Your correspondence with the trust was just pages of waffle that made vague complaints about nothing specific, just like your posts on here.
