Some time back I asked a Man Utd supporting workmate of mine if he'd have Jose as manager, the reply was an emphatic no. The usual reasons were given, defensive, negative, egotistical, doesn't suit the Utd way. So what has changed? His last season at Chelsea was a disaster on the pitch and behind the scenes, throughout the years he has had his failures, but also a lot of success, the latter has far outweighed the former. I've watched his career and at times I've enjoyed the style of football he plays. It's not true that he's negative, at least not all of the time. When Chelsea were flying with Mourinho at the helm they blew teams away at times with an agressive attacking brand of football, come the last 3 or 4 months of the season the ethos changes and this is where the negative brand comes from as his Chelsea teams dragged out results and frustrated the opposition. Since moving to Utd he's been quiet, has he learned to keep the ego in check to some degree? Or is it just early days? The monster is just hiding away. At the worst days of LVG's tenure the rumours of Jose had started and I asked my workmate again, the answer had changed, he had suffered the days of Moyes and LVG and was desperate for Jose to take over and drag his club out of the doom and gloom. Has Mourinho learned from his mistakes, will he be a little more humble and thoughtful this time around? Not a model citizen but just Jose light, If yes this could be a very good appointment for Utd.
He's found his home and his calling. He'll be our manager for a decade and ****ing smash it man, look out!
I really hope not. Your point about him finding his calling is interesting though I think that a club like yours may well get under his skin. You're not Real Madrid which is a club without a soul imo, they are a machine nothing more, Chelsea I wont go into as it'll detract form my point with the reaction from Chavs. You have tradition and history and if the right manager is in place you'll back him to the end.
Mourinho's ambitions can be summed up in his quotes from 2004 about not being interested in Chelsea and preferring Liverpool - he wants to build long term success and be part of the history of a big club. He wanted to be the one to bring the title back to Anfield after a decade of failed attempts and build a real legacy for himself. Since then he's tried to achieve that at Chelsea and Real, but both are clubs where the owners care more about immediate success than long term building and achievement. Utd weren't the right move for him in 2013 imo, as the pressure of succeeding SAF after his troubles at Real would have been too much, hence his somewhat naive view that he would be happier at Chelsea as there would be less pressure at a smaller club. Now I think he realises that he brings pressure himself wherever he goes, and so is a bit quieter and more humble. I think he also recognises that longevity at Utd will be more about respecting the club and delivering long term success, and less about histronics and building up his own image in the media.
I remember reading a story about Mourinho weeping when he found out Moyes was appointed ahead of him as he really wanted to join Man Utd and applied for the job rather then the club approaching him. If true, that he is now somewhere where he gives more then half a ****, it isn't really good for the rest of us...
His only failure is being unable to control his emotions.Other than that the man's a genius. Personally i think RA will regret sacking him,but we shall see.Its gonna be interesting!
I'm going to wait until December to really judge. But in my opinion, I think Mourinho was made for United. I think Fergie saw himself in him in the early days. If Mourinho succeeds in his first year, he will go on to dispel the 3-year myth.
Mourinho is the best at getting the league by bringing in expensive players. So he is well suited to a United for whom money is no object. Immediately after Fergie left I can see why the executive/owners went for Moyes instead of him. They didn't want to switch from a steady low spending culture to one caracterised by high spending short term success. But Moyes and LVG destroyed all those plans. I can understand why some fans here are critical of United for trying to buy Pogba at £100m. I would have agreed when SAF was managing and United were always favourites or thereabouts for the title. But nowadays the biggest club in the richest league in the world finishing 5th and not even in the CL? They really have no choice than to splash the money. For me , Jose has to bring the very top players. He just does not have to and cannot take a gamble like Leicester to bring unfancied players and build a team from scratch.
That's hardly the case though is it? With Schneiderlin, Herrera, Schweisteiger, Carrick and Blind there's a very very decent pool of centre midfield players to sort a side out from. Although add Pogba to that and he'd be hard pushed to NOT challenge for the title. #nopressurelike
Thats the point though. Decent is not good enough if he wants to be the best. I honestly think Pogba is better than what we've got and tbh if we realistically want to compete against the likes of Barcelona, Bayern Madrid and City, then we have to get him.
This is true, although remember we won't be competing against the likes of Barca, Bayern or Madrid next season. And I don't think we need Pogba to compete with a City side that squeaked ahead of us on goal difference last season and were dominated home and away by Real in Europe.
Sure. But Jose has to think slightly longer term than just this season. If he gets it right it this season, it could be the foundation for the next few years.
Whether Jose is right or not for United at this time i don`t know and will reserve judgement. It is nice though to see our manager in the actual technical area, in what seems like an absolute age.
Unfortunately I agree with you. You will let him dictate all the personnel matters and won't meddle too much. He is going to stay longer than 3 years certainly and Jose will match / make mockery of some of Alex's record.
Although you are taking the mick, we all know he won't match Fergie's record. But he wont be the failure that you seem to be predicting.
No I am not. I am not being sarcastic. Eventhough I am sad in predicting this - Jose will eclipse most, definitely not all of Alex's records. This is my honest opinion.
