Off Topic Sam In Pre-lim Talks With The FA

According to Sam, Bracewell and the other lads(not Ball) set up the entire preseason and Sam just signed it off. If' they've taken Sam's anal attitude to detail on board ragarding data collection and a sports science, it could be a viable option. Still a no from me but Bracie will beat a lot of candidates for me. Dyche for example.

 

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/english-pre...or-sean-dyche-if-sam-allardyce-leaves-sources

Ffs. Id rather have Dick Van Dyke .

 

Maybe it's the words 'shoestring budget' (where the **** did that term start from by the way, shoe string budget?) that's drawing comparisons to Allardyce and the media are putting 2 and 2 together. I doubt the club will be telling anybody in the media who they are contacting or intend to contact at this stage.

 

Aye i hope so mate.

 

I was taking the piss but now you have half convinced me!

 

Just trying to see the best from your suggestion, Doubt i could convince you more than half though.

 

Assuming they are actually doing something or sitting on their arses waiting to see what happens.

Not sure Sam`s in a good position if he doesn`t get the job.

 

I was miffed at first about the thought of Moyes, but now I'm beginning to think he might actually do alright with a club our size.

 

I love how the mag fans are all saying it'd be an awful appointment because he was crap at the mags!

Totally ignoring the fact that he has been a relative success just about everywhere he's been!!

 

hmm, It's the easy appointment. A big fat severance pay off the FA could bank roll somebody decent like pellegrini or de boer, just depends if Short has the Balls to to take a bit of time on negotiation. Big risk with the timing but one worth taking I say.

 

Personally I would be delighted if he didn;t get the job and don;t understand how it could affect his position with us. Why would anyone judge him for going for something he's wanted to do his entire life?

My guess is that it is the only job he'd be looking to leave us for and could you really blame him. I may actually start taking an interest again if he gets the job

 

Sam has had more games with us than he had at newcastle and he had a higher win percentage with the mags. The only problem with Big Sam and Newcastle was fan entitlement as always, They had a far fetch view that they should be playing like Barca. They got shot and have been relegated twice since. Shows what the mags know. No way in hell would they have ever been relegated under Sam. Serves them right.

 

I really hope this is what happens. But I think Short will go for the easy appointment.

 

I do too. I'd very surprised if Moyes isn't out next manager.

 

Full Paddy Power Next Permanent Sunderland Manager odds


David Moyes 5/2
Nigel Pearson 4/1
Sean Dyche 6/1
Jurgen Klinsmann 6/1
Steve McClaren 8/1
Roberto Martinez 10/1
Ryan Giggs 14/1
Frank De Boer 14/1
John O’Shea 14/1
Martin O’Neill 16/1
Chris Coleman 16/1
Gary Rowett 16/1
Steve Bruce 20/1
Gary Neville 20/1
Alex McLeish 20/1
Marcelo Bielsa 20/1
Paul Clement 20/1
Alex Neil 20/1
Manuel Pellegrini 20/1
Malky Mackay 20/1
Louis Van Gaal 20/1
Michael Laudrup 20/1
Stuart Pearce 25/1
Roy Keane 25/1
Steve Clark 25/1
Bob Bradley 25/1
Chris Hughton 33/1
Tony Pulis 33/1
Alan Stubbs 33/1
Mick McCarthy 40/1
Garry Monk 40/1
Neil Lennon 40/1
Andre Villas-Boas 40/1
Jamie Carragher 50/1
Frank Rijkaard 50/1
Paolo Di Canio 50/1
Roberto Mancini 50/1
Laurent Blanc 66/1

 

Don`t blame him in the least for trying although I doubt whether it would re-kindle much interest from me.

My concern is everything seems to have come to a halt waiting for the decision.

It`s probably just me getting in a strop at being ****ed about when things were starting to take shape.

 

Anyone else had an interview yet, or just SA so far?

 

Jamie Carragher.

 

Good on the big fella, probably earnt the right to manage the three legged lions... In reality I feel sorry for the bastard.. It's a tough gig, on paper at the Euros England looked good enough to Atleast make the semis.. From the outside looking in, it's a poisoned job, You got soft Cocks like Alan mcsoft cock Shearer putting his hand up for the job lol ya useless pleb sit the **** down.. Anyway SAFC is bigger then big Sam, we move along.. bunch of battlers and we'll find a way to win!!!

 

As Sunderland pointed out in their strongly-worded club statement, they need a “swift resolution” to the matter, to restore some sense of stability on the eve of the new campaign.

But even though Allardyce is still Sunderland manager - and the club clearly want that to remain the case - it would be naive and remiss of the Black Cats to not consider contingency options.

There is only a month to go until the Premier League gets underway and as yet, Sunderland are yet to make any inroads into the transfer market.

Either Allardyce, or his successor, needs to be able to strengthen Sunderland’s ranks with four or five players who improve the starting XI of a side that still finished fourth bottom last season, despite the rousing conclusion to the campaign.

Who could Sunderland turn to though? Well, if the Black Cats face the task of recruiting a seventh manager in the space of five years, there are plenty of options.

DAVID MOYES

The instant name that makes sense, and one that has been on Ellis Short’s radar previously.

Sunderland have enquired about Moyes on at least two occasions - including last summer and again in the Autumn prior to Allardyce’s appointment.

Moyes - who was in the Stadium of Light stands for Sunderland’s draw with Crystal Palace in March - has similar methods to Allardyce, with a focus on organisation, and his success at Everton was built on promoting homegrown talent and hidden gems in the transfer market.

After leaving Real Sociedad last November, he is keen to return to management too after considering the vacancy at Aston Villa at the end of the season.

SEAN DYCHE

If Dick Advocaat had not made a U-turn last summer, then there was a more than fair chance that Dyche would have taken the reins.

Dyche might not be a name which inspires supporters, but he’s very well respected within football and has his share of admirers in the Sunderland boardroom too.

However, after Burnley’s return to the Premier League, would Dyche jump ship? Yes, he might have a larger budget and be plying his trade at a bigger-hitting club, yet there would still be the danger of being involved in the scrap at the wrong end of the table.

MANUEL PELLEGRINI

On the face of it, an unlikely choice, yet speculation emerged in Pellegrini’s homeland of Chile on Tuesday night that he could be a contender at the Stadium of Light.

Would the ex-Manchester City boss really be willing to swap a top four challenge for a relegation scrap though? Yes, he’s out of work, but it’s a very different task to the one he enjoyed at the Etihad.

ROBERTO MARTINEZ

There would be few complaints over Sunderland being easy on the eye under Martinez, yet the climax of his Everton reign at the end of last season has damaged the Spaniard’s reputation.

Everton’s hapless defence was joyfully exposed by Sunderland as they sealed Premier League survival, while there were plenty of whispers about Martinez’s relationship with his players prior to his dismissal.

ROY HODGSON

Very much available after such a feeble end to his England reign and in fairness, did admirable jobs at West Brom and Fulham to stabilise them in the middle lands of the Premier League table.

But would Hodgson return to management so swiftly? If he did, he’d inevitably face an uncomfortable amount of scrutiny.

ROBBIE STOCKDALE

Extremely well-regarded by Sunderland’s players and Allardyce has delegated much of the training ground preparations to the Black Cats’ former Under-21 coach.

However, if the instability does continue at Sunderland with Allardyce’s departure, it’s hardly a job for a coach with no managerial experience.

RYAN GIGGS

Like Roy Keane, Giggs would generate huge media interest at Sunderland and would instantly command respect of the dressing room after his hugely-decorated playing career.

The same reservations surround Giggs as Stockdale though. Can Sunderland be really taking a chance on a novice at this time?

FRANK DE BOER

The ex-Ajax boss has made no secret of his desire to test himself in the Premier League and has been linked with Newcastle, Everton and Southampton over recent months.



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