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Off Topic Sam In Pre-lim Talks With The FA

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  1. RTB

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    How about Marcelo Bielsa for England?
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    Apparently this is why he left Lazio 2 days into the job:
    "After four weeks working together with you, we could not sign any of the seven additions in the work program expressly approved by the president Claudio Lotito. We also take into account the departure of 18 players who were involved in the previous season.
    It was agreed as essential to the implementation of the work program that we would sign at least four footballers before July 5, with the objective that they would be able to participate in pre-season.

    For my style of work we needed to have these players arrive in a timely manner to train."

    Well at least he stayed twice as long as he managed to do for Marseille. He doesn't mess about. It's his way or NO WAY <laugh>
     
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  3. Nads

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    Bielsa for us! Ha.
     
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    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Ranieri for England
     
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  5. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Then NO way. If you can't bend you break. Hodgson just proved that.
     
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    SUNDERLAND boss Sam Allardyce is set to be named on the shortlist for the next England manager, with the Football Association keen to hold a first round of interviews before the start of the domestic season.
    The FA have completed their consultancy process, and the three-man panel charged with the task of recruiting Roy Hodgson is ready to recommend a three-man shortlist. Allardyce is expected to be on that shortlist, along with Bournemouth boss Eddie Howe and an overseas candidate, who could turn out to be United States boss Jurgen Klinsmann.
    Losing Allardyce either ahead of the start of the season or in the opening weeks of the new campaign would represent a massive blow to Sunderland, but a source close to the Black Cats boss claims that while he is mindful of the potential damage his departure could cause, he remains desperate to secure the England job, which he regards as the most prestigious post in the country.
    He was interviewed for the position in 2006, only to lose out to Steve McClaren, and has never hidden his desire to take charge of the national team.
    The FA’s recruitment team, which comprises chief executive Martin Glenn, former Manchester United chairman David Gill and technical director Dan Ashworth, have canvassed opinion from a number of high-profile figures in the game including Harry Redknapp, Rio Ferdinand and Gary Lineker.
    Redknapp is understood to have backed Allardyce for the job, while Sir Alex Ferguson, who remains a close confidante of Gill, has also publicly endorsed the 61-year-old’s claims.
    While the FA are willing to look overseas, they would prefer to appoint an Englishman, having invested millions into St George’s Park and a new network of English coaches.
    Howe, who guided Bournemouth to Premier League safety last season, has his supporters, but Allardyce’s extensive experience could prove key. Of the other leading English candidates, Alan Pardew and Gareth Southgate have ruled themselves out of the running while Glenn Hoddle is not being considered.
    The FA would like to include Arsene Wenger on their shortlist, but the Arsenal manager has ruled out leaving Arsenal until he has completed the final year of his contract at the Emirates. Appointing an interim manager for the next 12 months is not believed to be an option, although the FA would be willing to consider a temporary appointment for September’s opening World Cup qualifier against Slovakia if the recruitment process drags on.
    Sunderland’s board are aware of the ongoing interest in Allardyce, but are yet to begin a formal process of drawing up a list of potential replacements.
    Reports last week claimed the Black Cats boss had a ‘release clause’ in his contract enabling him to walk away from Wearside, but senior club sources have dismissed such suggestions. Allardyce has 12 months remaining on his current deal, and the FA would have to negotiate a compensation payment if they wanted to prise him away from the Stadium of Light.
     
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  7. Canny Lad

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    Wouldn't want this to happen as we finally have a manager who potentially could stabilise us in the premiership. if it does happen he has my blessing, albeit grudgingly, who could turn down the England Job. I'm hoping the FA are just going through the motions.
     
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    Nooooooooooooo
     
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    <laugh>. Wasnt good enough for safc when linked, according to some on here.
     
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    The England job isn't what it's cracked up to be ...... it's actually the road to ridicule and derision.

    Look how many managers have gone in one end of the mincer and come out looking like a sausage.

    It's a surefire way to have your credibility destroyed and become a figure of fun and, in some cases, hatred.

    Keegan, Hoddle, McClaren, Taylor and even Bobby Robson have all been damaged by taking on the hopeless task that is England.

    The England players are simply too wealthy, arrogant and self obsessed to be moulded into a credible outfit.

    Allardyce would be looked down on by the bunch of pompous millionaires who believe themselves to be much better than they are.

    This latest 'golden generation' showed, in the latest debacle, that the competition was delaying their summer appointment with a jet-ski.

    The fact that a hard working dedicated tee-total player, in Defoe, wasn't really considered shows the mentality of the whole set up.

    Allardyce would come out of the England experience a broken man who would wonder why he wanted the job in the first place.

    The opinions of the 'knowledgeable England fans', used to supporting 'winners' like Chelsea,Man City, United etc would be so predictable. They already have an opinion of Allardyce as an ugly lumpy man playing ugly 'lump it forward' football and they would be less than thrilled with his appointment.
    And the pompous press, who sit around pontificating on Sunday Supplement, would look down their noses because they believe themselves to be the football intelligentsia despite none of them having any real experience of the game.

    After the Wally with the Brolly, and Turnip Head the media already have their headlines written and the nickname chosen .......


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    Can't disagree with any of this Smug.....But Sam has often spoken about his desire to manage his country...if offered he will take their hand off. I have no doubt
     
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    God forbid he should ever take it for our sake but if he does I have visions of Alf Ramsey who took the press to pieces by often delaying interviews and sticking to his selection of who he wanted for his TEAM rather than their version of who was the better player.

    When he was appointed in 1963 he merely insisted that we would win in 1966. Nuff said.
     
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    I do think you're right mate, but I also think any manager who truly believes in himself will see the rewards of being the first one to get it right, they'll far outweigh the fallout of being another one who never made it.

    Especially given he's not just starting out as a manager.

    If I have to choose between Allardyce and a German, it's simply no contest.
     
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    I don't want Allardyce to go, he fits Sunderland and I was looking forward to seeing what he could do.

    My two hopes are that,

    The FA prefer managers who 'fit the blazer' and talk diplomatically about their running of the national set up. Allardyce would be seen as a loose cannon who's likely to criticise the FA, players, club managers etc ....... his comment about a Sunderland performance being shyte, last season, would make them choke on their sherry.

    Secondly, the next 2 World Cups are Qatar and Russia which are probably the least appealing prospects.
    The England players simply won't fancy either.

    I rest my case <laugh>
     
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    Case well presented, but unless you tell me he's part of ISIS then the German could never be my preference.

    We've shown we need a 'team' and he's proved he can assemble 'teams' more than enough times.
     
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    Still can't see it happening. Although I do prefer to have an English manager in charge. Failing that, Gus Hiddink with someone like Eddie Howe as his apprentice would be a good shout IMOOC
     
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    I'm suddenly not 100% sure he'll stay with us now <doh>
     
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    I wonder if The FA have updated their equipment yet...

    When Allardyce was interviewed to replace Sven-Goran Eriksson in 2006, he had prepared a Power Point presentation which “nobody but nobody was going to beat”, only for the FA not to have the facilities for him to show it. He had to print out hard copies instead and lost out to McClaren.
     
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