Kerber also said last week that to put tariffs on UK trade would be very very foolish, common sense will prevail.
The British Parliament should themselves place a time limit upon the invocation of article 50 - they should say to the Brexiters 'there, you have won your cup and now found it is full of aconite - go ahead and drink it', because if you don't deliver on your promises then we will call a new referendum on the grounds that the result of the last one led to an unworkable mandate.
What is becoming clearer, is the notion that we can visit Brussels, sit down over a nice glass of claret, and sort out a trade position that suits us, is pure fantasy. Although Germany is prepared, and they are not the EU, to give us a short period to sort ourselves out, they are not prepared to allow us to set the rules. Other countries do not even want to give us time for their own reasons. It became clear in the Commons that there is little idea how this can work out. Cameron was able to sidestep some questions by saying it was not down to him now. To date we have had one article from Boris which has now been shown to not work. Plan B now required please.
They had better get it right as there will have to be a border to replace Hadrian's Wall - and they will need visas to come back.
How do you equate being invaded and having your people ruled by an aristocracy that does not speak the same language as you as being in some kind of partnership? Anyway, I like my cakes not burnt. Get over yourself you big melt.
What is the last sentence supposed to mean W_Y ? England has never stood so alone as it does now. All of our Commonwealth partners have expressed their opinions about Brexit and how the attractiveness of Britain has gone down as a result, the USA has done the same (apart from Trump) - and, it is an Anglo Saxon thing W_Y. When Scotland has gone (joining Ireland ?) and taken the oil with it - and the banks have gone to Frankfurt maybe you will realize how alone you are.
I would suggest that during Elizabeth I's reign we stood more alone (if one can quantify degrees of aloneness) - especially during the Spanish Armada, At least now we do not have the prospect of the EU countries trying to invade us to convert us back to Europhiles. Might be interesting if they did though! We could have superhorns driving down to Tilbury and addressing the Leave troops with "I may have the mind of a weak and feeble Tory but I have the heart of a UKIPer".
It means that you are acting like a spoilt child stamping your feet because you have not got your own way. You have pontificated on these threads about democracy and now we see it demonstrated you don't like the result. As usual you list made up comments as some sort of facts...show me where our Commonwealth partners have stated that the attractiveness of Britain has gone down? You do know where the largest group of non-EU immigrants come from don't you? As the SNP keep stating Scotland, is not reliant on oil so how would the rest of Britain be reliant on them? - in any case to fund their massive State Socialists the SNP will tax the living daylights out of the Oil Industry and the big boys will stop pumping and will be getting out of town post-haste. How can Scotland join Ireland, they are 2 different countries - that is just nonsense. Some parts of some banks may need to move into an onshore EU country, but the rest will remain because their business is in the UK - of course it's likely that the reverse will also be true and that EN banks may need to move to London to be able to trade within the £ zone. Businesses will still trade, the Germans will need to sell their cars and washing machines in Britain, the Spanish will still need to sell Salad good in Britain and will still be massively dependent on British tourists - we will not be alone. You should start to worry more about Germany being isolated by other countries that have seen this vote and start asking the same questions..
I don't know why this keeps descending into abuse. big melt.. .stamping feet etc Look at the £, the stock markets, look at the statements from virtually every world organisation, Bank, Govt...... Are they all somehow infantile? These are real issues. Leave supporters should not gloss them over they need addressing.
For God's sake get down off your pompous high horse W_Y. Can you not understand that I am ashamed to be British at the moment, and that is not a nice feeling to have living here - that I may have to give up British nationality as a result of this. I am ashamed because, as a result of this step, Britain may well have taken the first step towards becoming the new paupers of Europe. They have done this on the back of a vitriolic campaign based on lies, xenophobic propaganda, promises which cannot be kept and a perpetual search to find scapegoats for all of England's problems - all backed up by a gutter press which has fed the masses with nothing but anti European lies and propaganda for the last 30 years. I will not accept a World based on creating barriers between people not now, not ever. I am sick at what Britain has become - How is it possible for a country which is supposedly great to be able to play the role of not being able to negotiate for itself in Brussels on even terms ? To play the role of the little boy always getting sand kicked in his face and sulking in the corner - whilst telling us on the other hand how vibrant and dynamic we are. How is it possible to go on repeating the lie that decisions are made for us by Brussels - they are not made 'by' Brussels, but 'in' Brussels by elected representatives of the nations, which includes Britain. There has hardly been one law made in Brussels which did not have the consent of the elected British representatives in the EU. but do the papers tell you this ? No, they are happier spinning tales about bananas.
Now that I can't really answer as I'm not that sure. At the moment, the Home Office controls the number Scotland can take - and has refused to allow more than the 1000 Syrian refugees brought in late last year & who have been settled in Glasgow and in the Western Isles with no problem, other than a few rabid Rangers fans mouthing off in the streets at them. SG have made it known that the country will take their share when asked - and that will apply if & when Independence is gained. My possibly simplistic view is that the country needs immigrants in order to grow, therefore they are welcome with open arms. Of course, ideally the best way to deal with the problem that currently exists would be to halt the destruction going on in their country - not something that Scotland can do on its own, but are certainly in favour of promoting.
Moderate our policy, no real problems with immigration. Continue to have access to the market whatever . Must take into account that Scotland and Ireland are not with us. Politicians do not say we got it wrong, they slowly drip feed their shift in views. The above is now seeping out. How long before they admit that a few more policies were a mistake?
Farage upset at the way people who wanted to leave have realized now that his vision was not practical. Been sounding off on Channel 4. No wonder he has never been able to win a seat in Parliament.
This is the guy that won the European elections for his party and massively changed the UK. Winning a seat in parliament pails into insignificance.
But it's OK to call people that do not have the same opinion racists, xenophobes, stupid people who believe what The Sun tells them or stupid people who believe what they are told down the pub - Cologne is still doing it. I have just ordered some US$'s - the rate I got was 1cent worse than the rate I received in March. Take a look at the graph, the $ rate has been in decline since last Autumn. The FTSE will recover when the coin eyed spivs have taken their coin by shorting banking stocks and have to recover their positions - there was always the likelihood of a short term impact because of the uncertainty. Remain supporters need to move on and if they make statements like "statements from virtually every leading world organisation.." they can back it up with examples. What has the Merkel said after the vote?
I will when you stop accusing the people with different views to yours of being racists, xenophobes, stupid people who do what the gutter press tell them. BTW - laws are drafted in Brussels and sometimes in Strasbourg because after all these years the EU cannot still agree where the EU Parliament should reside. That is a prime example of why having a government at this macro level is just not required - they are far too far away from ordinary people. The EU institutions are just clubs for the political classes to further their careers on the backs of ordinary people - if you are happy to pay extra tax to fund this ever expanding gravy train, that's fine by me, but I am not.
Do some research into water charges in Ireland and what the EU has been imposing on the people in Ireland.
I am not accusing every Brexit supporter of being a racist or xenophobe, although most racists or xenophobes would have supported Brexit. However, the Conservative Brexiters did not distance themselves quickly enough from the way Ukip conducted their campaign - I do not think for one minute that people like Ian Duncan Smith agreed with some of Ukip's posters. However, Brexit voters have been collectively deluded, in a way which was inevitable. they have been deluded because there was nobody on the Brexit side who spelled out the obvious, namely: 1. There is no plan in the event of a Brexit vote. 2. Article 50 will not be activated immediately (if at all) - in fact there are very few voters who know that much about Article 50. 3. We will distance ourselves completely from Farage (but only afterwards). 4. Once Article 50 is activated the retaining, or rejection of, every single EU. law will have to be voted on (singly) by the British Parliament - a Parliament which has a majority of 450-150 for remain. This means that Brexit (even if it happens) will be a very watered down agreement, at least from our side. Parliament may not have the courage to reject the Brexit vote itself, but they can, and will, reject every single law change as it comes up. The Brexiters have promised something to the electorate which they know they cannot deliver. Like all revolutions it has turned in on itself, and the main instigator, Farage, is out in the cold - something which was inevitable from the start. The only thing which has been achieved from this is that the British people have sent out a message of 'isolationalism' to the rest of the World.
