Off Topic Impact of Brexit on Football

Wise words, Norkie, but surely you can't sweep the fact under the carpet that Scotland and N Ireland both voted to remain in the EU. Whereas England, in their wisdom, voted to leave. Why should these countries have any interest in "re-uniting" when they've basically got to accept having a decision forced upon them that was technically nothing to do with them and that neither wanted?
If you ask me further fragmentation, possibly resulting in devolution is far more likely than all four GB member countries reuniting having meekly accepted their new, unwanted fate anytime soon.

 

Fair point carrow, but should Boris and his gang become PM etc, then I'm totally unconvinced that things will be MUCH better!!! #stopboris
OK, there should be more of it to spend

 

At least we will have the power to vote them out

 

Scotland & NI are not members of the EU the UK is. So it is a UK decision. Why should a few hundred thousand votes in Scotland disenfranchise the majority in England or Wales who voted to leave. Also it does not necessarily follow that just because a Scot voted to remain in the EU they will vote for independence I suspect it's more likely the opposite. Anyway the poison dwarf of the north will not hold a referendum on independence unless she's sure she'll win it.

 

Of course it has to be Boris what better than to put a clown in charge of a circus !!!!

 

This will only be true if the economy holds up. If it continues to shrink and other employers follow HSBC's decision to move 1000 employees to Paris to benefit from the single market, there will not be any of the £170m to spend and most probably a deficit to make up through borrowing and even deeper austerity. A lower pound means that prices will rise, beginning with petrol which is traded in dollars. This is the point Osborne (a man I loathe, by the way) was making, but too many people ignored it.

 

Turdgeon has to be 100% sure of victory if there is another independence referendum so soon after losing the last one, lose it and the Jocks will forever remain part of the Union

 

Seems like a few MPs that urged us to stay in and change from within......are now quitting.

 

At the moment she seems as certain that she'll win it. As certain as Cameron was that he would win a remain vote.

 

Scotland will go, and now is their perfect time - polls massively in favour - and if the mood is anything like London it'll be sooner rather than later... and I suspect they will get a loyalty reward, as a show to the rest of Eu. I do think they, the EU, will react, whether that's through love to their members to keep them, or treating us with the sh***y end of the stick to show that you don't want to leave.

Gove and Boris, who should be on long victory laps are nowhere to be seen! How strange. Boris in particular has the look of a man who knows he has truly ****** it. I doubt actually leaving EU was ever part of his plan. HSBC the first to announce job cuts. Yay, Independence Day!

The long play to this is that it could work well for lab and libs. I see lib are the first to say their priority will be to get us back in, and I can see that being attractive to a lot, especially in a couple of years time...particularly when those who blamed the EU realise where they should be directing their anger.

 

Looks like we've swerved a bullet here

 

Well thank you for clarifying canario - and in to that misrepresenting or misquoting some of the things I said.
Please tell me though, if UKIP were not "banging on about racism" what were they selling? They did not believe in the £350m per week claim apparently, they weren't offering defence of workers' rights, so why did so many traditional Labour supporters vote for them? Sadly as you have spoken for the last time we will never know, the World is the poorer for it.

 

At the end of the day ........

 

In an interesting twist to that, Sturgeon has now said that the Scottish Parliament could refuse to grant 'legislative consent' to the parliament motion for the UK to leave the EU. It doesn't seem that likely to me, but more details are here:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...remy-corbyn-sacks-hilary-benn-tory-leadership

You need to select this topic to find it: : 'Sturgeon says Scotland could try to block UK withdrawal from the EU'

 

Cannot legally do so according to a lawyer on BBC News, we're out folks so start being more positive about this Great Nation of ours.
All Empires fall eventually even great ones like the British, the fact that the EU one lasted only 40 years tells you how great (sic) that one was.

 

You missed the "K" off your bracketed caveat!

 

I deliberately did a you said, I said post so that neither of us was misquoted. My experience is on this forum that if you don't do this posters tend to deliberately or otherwise misrepresent what others say, i.e they own their opponents agenda. You asked me to clarify what I said, I have. There is no point discussing this point further, however if you can highlight to me where I have misquoted you or misrepresented what you have said I would be more than happy to respond to that.

 

yep, awful wasnt it, leading us out of a world war, cementing unity in europe, and ultimately leading us here - to a time when people like you can just shrug it off as nothing, such is our removal from the world people lived in then.

im curious - historically, has a swell in nationalism ever ended positively?