Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

New petition going around, if we lose to Iceland we want it replayed until we win

 

Well well The vote out brigade have set up a petition now to the fact that they have been conned into voting out and they can see now that all them economists and political leaders and the banks were right after all .......When they reach a certain figure it will be given to parliament that has to debate it....As it stands today we are still in the EU as it has not been through parliament yet and as it is only a vote to see the feelings of the country and not any official decision yet. The parliament can if it wishes totally ignore the referendum if it chooses but would not in normal circumstances but with the facts coming to light made by those who voted out then this puts a different light on the matter......there may be twists and turns yet to come..........One pledge by the out brigade was they would put £100m straight into the NHS if they won and when asked just hours later will they be doing that once coming out is made official they have said no such promise was made.....liars its on tape People are not happy.....

 

Unless Out control the Chancellor, they can't decide if £1 or £100m is put into the NHS or anything else. No one knows yet if "all them economists and political leaders and the banks were right after all" given the vote happened two days ago. Two years perhaps at a push but even that is relatively short term.

Leave won, fair and square after equally non-sensical claims on both sides. As with the most recent general election, those who backed the losing horse will whinge for a bit because we live in a society now where everyone feels wronged if they don't get their way.

 

They did not win fair at all far from it....

 

The online petitions require 100k people before they must be discussed, but as it was a secret ballot there is no way of knowing if those who are signing it are out voters or remain voters but you'd think either way it would need over 17million-ish signatures to stand up against the referendum we've just had.

Both campaigns mislead the public and exaggerated claims but there is a lot of real information available through various sources online that anyone could have gained access to in order to make an informed decision. Clearly people have voted based on things which aren't neccessarily true but that won't be enough for the referendum to be ignored as otherwise they would have had better controls in place over what could and couldn't be said during the campaigns.

The only way I could see this not resulting in an exit is if the new PM decides to put the referendum result to a parliamentary vote rather than immediately acting on it, though Cameron had promised he would act on the referendum result. Even then, despite there being a majority of MPs who back remaining in the EU, most you'd imagine would be likely to vote with the referendum result rather than against the people.

I think it's highly unlikely that we now won't pull out of the EU.

 

There's now a petition doing the rounds for a rematch of the battle of Hastings 1066 as the petition maker is not happy about the result

 

So long as they disenfranchise the brain-deads first.

I wouldn't mind another vote with genuine and informed eurosceptics against equally informed remainers.

 

Point is though, that 5% could have swung it the other way had Remain made their case effectively. Cameron's empty posturing during his attempts to win concessions from Europe, and Corbyn's utter ****ing uselessness throughout the campaign, probably helped to push that 5% (whose votes were in play and could have been won by persuasive argument) toward Leave. That's a valid point.

 

No, it's not perfect. But I still maintain that the current relationship that we have (had) with the EU was more to our benefit - that we got more from it than we put in. It made no sense for us to leave at this point in time, we were in the EU pretty much on our terms. No, we didn't get every last thing we asked for, but we'd negotiated a pretty good deal for ourselves.

I've done all this before, but my support for staying would have been somewhat conditional on future events. Any push towards a federal state, for instance, would see me switch to leave.

What is so annoying and frustrating for those of us who have informed ourselves on this issue, and decided to remain, is that the final result of this whole referendum was in the hands, and decided by far too many uninformed, xenophobic idiots, who really didn't have a clue what they were really letting themselves in for. They let Boris and Farage put a ring through their all too willing noses and lead them exactly where they wanted them to go!

It's why you see the slightly more aware of these now crying that they've been conned and want to change their vote!...

 

The icing on the cake.

Not only did the public make the right choice in voting leave, but Corbyn has finally been shown up for the useless plank most of us already knew him to be. His clueless supporters must be suicidal now that they've been proven to be a bunch of first rate morons to have supported the ****ing idiot in the first place

If there's any downside, it's that Corbyn will soon be removed as leader which will substantially increase the chance of a labour victory some time in the next 30 years.

 

Yep it could have gone either way. If labour had effectively communicated that an out vote would mean Boris, Nigel, The BNP and Le Penn in France celebrating, as well as the working class being hammered when the financial hit takes hold, then maybe some of those people would have voted to stay. Disappointed with Corbyn. I think in power he could make some radical changes, but his campaigning is woeful.

 

Chris Eubank has had to change his name to Chris Bank.

 

It's ok, he won't understand why, anyway...

 

The stupidity of some people who voted leave is now coming home to roost. I live in Cornwall, where we used to get £60m per year from the EU. It helped to give us fibre broadband, develop Newquay airport, improve roads, fund small business, built a university. Now those same people are asking the govt 'Will we still get our £60m ?' knowing that the money given to the local authority is so scant that they can't even afford to pay for public toilets.

 

Yeh but the foreigners will all be deported soon so it will be worth it right?

Wrong!

 

Almost 3 million have signed the second referendum petition now!...

 

Not really shocked that the 'anti-democracy' remainers are trying to overturn the referendum results tbh.

Shameless bunch of desperate, know nothing ****s who are doomed to fail yet again

 

Out of interest, are you in any way starting to feel like it was a hollow victory and/or that you're not going to get what you wanted given that the Leave team have so far said that they lied about the NHS and that immigration won't be impacted much? There will be more backtracking to come.

Serious question as a lot of people seemed to vote based on what Nigel told them and they're now realising that as he's not a member of Parliament, let alone part of the government, he has no power and had nothing to lose by lying to the gullible.

Actually he does have something to lose. His job as an MEP.

In other news, Labour in total meltdown.

 

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/06/24/boris-johnsons-brexit-facebook-page/

 

Whereas the remain camp played with a straight bat all the way through the campaign?
I'm just off to do my bit for "queen and country", now that Cameron's claim of world war 3 has proved to be accurate!?