Off Topic BREXIT

Which would have happened either way

 

And yet from my perspective, with regards to who controls Britain - nothing has changed. We've always had the ability to vote out our government if we don't like them. What happens in Britain - who has been telling us what to do? If you make a vacuum cleaner and want to sell it in the EU, it will still have to have a motor of less than 1700W. However, we've now lost our seat at the table to set the rules in the first place.

I honestly don't see what there is to celebrate on that score, and nothing on that thread has convinced me so far with any concrete examples to show how we're going to be better off.

 

Merge.

 

Erme that was due to the reichstag fire. There was overwhelming pressure to make hitler chancellor. They were the largest party in Germany by far. Who voted for them?

 

Us? You are in Spain. They will be rather worried in Madrid that Scotland breaking away will give them ideas in Catalonia and the Basque Country.

 

No chance, not to the extent of some of the elitist **** I've seen.

Quite ironic that those who insist on an all encompassing Europe think we should exclude those who are "uneducated", live on "council estates", are "bigots, "racists", "thick", "selfish" & even "old".

 

Of course. Many people were so scared they pretended they supported them - a bit like Teresa May!

 

The remainers are the ones who have been in charge and got us into this mess we are in. It is now up to the .Brexiters to sort it out.

 

I didn't get that feeling from the people who were voting Leave. They seemed to be a lot more realistic.

 

Madrid, we've met, had a drink and spent a day at Wembley for the cup final in each other's company to say I'm disappointed in some of your comments is an understatement but given your location and situation highly understandable.

My dad voted to leave not because of immigration or because he's a bigot but because he's a 4th generation fruit farmer from East Kent.

Over the best part of his working life he's seen his industry crippled by the EU, the EU May not have been to blame as much as his own governments inability to make agriculture more competitive or more importantly value industries such as farming and fishing, but his vote was as far as he believed for a better chance - many had other reasons some may have been bigots but not all.

Me and brother voted in a different direction but we certainly don't bare any grudge towards him - we both watched him struggle throughout our childhoods and more importantly saw the sheer disappointment and sadness in his eyes when his sons told him they wouldn't be following in his and his families footsteps.

I'm not angry about the result I'm angry about the manner in which people have taken the result and lack of positivity about what, may, lay ahead.

For myself the path I took away from farming led me to a career where now I can have a positive impact on where we go next - luckily the doom and gloom coming from the EU doesn't resonate with with the work I've been doing for the last 8 years and I remain optimistic that in the long term a reasonable exit will be achieved.

 

I spent some time in Southern Spain, Andalucia, around 8-9 years ago. Plenty of migrant workers with much more local racist mis-trust than I've ever witnessed here.

This bigot, & he is a bigot, is just looking out for himself as he may face consequences as a result of the result. Ironic considering his calls of selfishness.

 

Get someone to explain the difference between not deserving and not being worthy.

 

Germans voted for Hitler primarily because of his promises to revive the economy (by unspecified means), to restore German greatness and overturn the Treaty of Versailles, and to save Germany from communism.
(same link)

 

Yes. Merge.

And not worth wasting your time. Will never happen. Pointless.

 

What a load of complete and utter ****e.

 

Also comes across quite bitter. Though I think people who voted Leave would've probably done the same.

 

Merge? Just delete the ****.

 

If you like it do it, if not don't. No need for vitriol. I agree it stands no chance though.

 

What like key business heads James Dyson, Graeme Macdonald (CEO for JCB) that advocated an exit from the EU? You're talking out of your arse.