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Off Topic Impact of Brexit on Football

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  1. General Melchett

    General Melchett Well-Known Member

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    Whilst I think leave was the right thing to do, I won't celebrate it. I honestly thought I could have voted either way right up to the 11th hour, but no truely compelling case came from remain to change my initial slight leaning. It was two poor choices that were made more unpalletable by the politicians involved on both sides. Long term I believe the positives of leave outway those of stay. In the short term I can see some pain for us and the EU. On a plus note Cameron is going to leave by the October Tory party conference.<party>

    Bah!
     
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    Back to the original topic. Interesting times ahead for the PL recruitment. The Pound is significantly weakened (Though not to bad against the EUR so far) so spending power is eroded. Will a newly independant UK and PL hold the same appeal to EU players? For now I think yes, I think that they will still come for the bigger pay and will be eager to get here before any potential barriers arrive with our official exit in 2+ years.

    Bah!
     
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  3. JKCanary

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    Congrats to RBF, KIO et al.
    You got what you wanted, hopefully the pound can recover swiftly from the hammering it has taken this morning. <ok>
     
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    Markets haven't taken the nose dive that was expected. Clear that a lot of planning has gone on and there isn't the panic that was expected.

    Euro is also taking a hit.
     
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  5. JM Fan

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    From an article on the BBC website - "British football clubs could find it more difficult to buy summer targets after the UK's decision to leave the European Union, an expert has warned.
    Transfer fees and wages may rise, said Simon Chadwick, professor of sports enterprise at Salford University.
    "Clubs could suddenly find players are much more expensive because the pound is worth less," he told BBC Sport."

    It goes on to say that 'home grown' players may get more of a chance to break into first teams, but I think that the mega rich owners will just happily stump up whatever it costs to bring players here!!!!
    Full article here - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36620201
     
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    I guess an alternative strength of brexit for UK football is the ability to set our criteria for non-eu players. I believe it was EU regulations rather than DW&P that said a player had to have played something like 2/3rds of their countries international fixtures in the last two years. Remove that restriction and Premier League clubs would have an advantage in importing young, non-eu talent.
     
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    Don't forget all EU players will now require a work permit and it may prove difficult in a lot of instances
     
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    But they won't for at least 2 years and probably longer. Anyway the quote is meaningless, might just as well have said "I don't know"
     
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    Hopefully British youngsters will now get a better chance to progress to international standard.
     
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    We can but hope - though I'm not 'holding my breath' that one!!
     
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    Smile at us, pay us, pass us; but do not quite forget;
    For we are the people of England, that never have spoken yet.
    There is many a fat farmer that drinks less cheerfully,
    There is many a free French peasant who is richer and sadder than we.
    There are no folk in the whole world so helpless or so wise.
    There is hunger in our bellies, there is laughter in our eyes;
    You laugh at us and love us, both mugs and eyes are wet:
    Only you do not know us. For we have not spoken yet.


    The fine French kings came over in a flutter of flags and dames.
    We liked their smiles and battles, but we never could say their names.
    The blood ran red to Bosworth and the high French lords went down;
    There was naught but a naked people under a naked crown.
    And the eyes of the King's Servants turned terribly every way,
    And the gold of the King's Servants rose higher every day.
    They burnt the homes of the shaven men, that had been quaint and kind,
    Till there was no bed in a monk's house, nor food that man could find.
    The inns of God where no man paid, that were the wall of the weak.
    The King's Servants ate them all. And still we did not speak.


    And the face of the King's Servants grew greater than the King:
    He tricked them, and they trapped him, and stood round him in a ring.
    The new grave lords closed round him, that had eaten the abbey's fruits,
    And the men of the new religion, with their bibles in their boots,
    We saw their shoulders moving, to menace or discuss,
    And some were pure and some were vile; but none took heed of us.
    We saw the King as they killed him, and his face was proud and pale;
    And a few men talked of freedom, while England talked of ale.


    A war that we understood not came over the world and woke
    Americans, Frenchmen, Irish; but we knew not the things they spoke.
    They talked about rights and nature and peace and the people's reign:
    And the squires, our masters, bade us fight; and scorned us never again.
    Weak if we be for ever, could none condemn us then;
    Men called us serfs and drudges; men knew that we were men.
    In foam and flame at Trafalgar, on Albuera plains,
    We did and died like lions, to keep ourselves in chains,
    We lay in living ruins; firing and fearing not
    The strange fierce face of the Frenchmen who knew for what they fought,
    And the man who seemed to be more than a man we strained against and broke;
    And we broke our own rights with him. And still we never spoke.


    Our patch of glory ended; we never heard guns again.
    But the squire seemed struck in the saddle; he was foolish, as if in pain,
    He leaned on a staggering lawyer, he clutched a cringing Jew,
    He was stricken; it may be, after all, he was stricken at Waterloo.
    Or perhaps the shades of the shaven men, whose spoil is in his house,
    Come back in shining shapes at last to spoil his last carouse:
    We only know the last sad squires rode slowly towards the sea,
    And a new people takes the land: and still it is not we.


    They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords,
    Lords without anger or honour, who dare not carry their swords.
    They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes;
    They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies.
    And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs,
    Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.


    We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet,
    Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street.
    It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first,
    Our wrath come after Russia's wrath and our wrath be the worst.
    It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest
    God's scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best.
    But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet.
    Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.



    Gilbert Keith Chesterton

    But now we HAVE spoken :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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  12. JM Fan

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    Well KIO - I'm just waiting for all the fine words and promises spouted by the leave campaign to unravel. I see the £350M a week for the NHS already has - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36624697.
    Best we enjoy eating fish whilst we can as well, as I can see stocks dwindling with the demise of the fisheries policy!!!
     
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  13. gruffnuts

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    Its going to be perversely quite enjoyable watching it all go South and having realisation hit those who voted leave. Whether that's now or in a few years after gove or bozza have carved up the NHS. Scotland as good as gone. Even grimmer austerity for the foreseeable. I'll be alright, but a lot won't. At least I'll be able to get on the housing ladder. In a country I don't really want to live in anymore. Winner.
     
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    Just imagine if USA follows suit, Trump could be president and probably Boris as PM!!!!! <doh>
     
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    As far as I'm aware that claim was never made by the leave campaign, that was what the remain campaign were saying the leave campaign were saying which is something totally different. Anyway we won't have a chance to spend it on anything other than world war 3 and in the interests of fairness I don't think the remain campaign actually said that it was a label that some that Brexit supporters tried to put on them.

    Perhaps the biggest disappoint, although not unexpected, is the way the press and in particular the BBC have reported on the whole issue. I think there is a case for creating legislation to ensure that our public funded broadcaster is restricted to only reporting factually correct and non misleading information.

    Now what we really need now is another referendum (but rig it properly this time) to unite everybody.
     
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    Despite what the poison dwarf in the north might say there is no guarantee that Scotland would vote to leave the UK. Approx 2 in 5 Scots voted to leave the EU and whose to say just because a person voted to remain in the EU they want to leave the UK. I would have thought in general they would be just as likely to vote remain in the UK as anyone else. One things for sure a second referendum won't be held until those that want Scottish independence are certain of getting what they want.
     
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    Farage has admitted that the leave campaign should not have made that claim, which would seem to indicate that they did indeed do so. Both sides were guilty of gross distortion of the truth throughout. I arrived back in the UK last Sunday and was amazed by the totally bad attitude by both sides. Thankfully I shall be gone again in two weeks so shall not have to suffer the aftermath of this.
     
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    I have two official Leave leaflets that make that claim in print. I'm keeping them for when the Leave supporters start to say we never said that and all the other lies that were made. One thing for certain is that we will soon have an unelected liar as Prime Minister.

    I feel sorry for the young people of this country who had to stand by and see what was their future become their past.
     
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    Yes, the fisheries policy that took Mr Gove's father's business away, those bastard Europeans! Oh hang on, Michael got it wrong, his Father had apparently told him quite categorically that he had in fact retired and that was why his business finished. As a barrister, you would have hoped that the cabinet minister (Justice secretary for goodness sake) might just have got that important fact right. But as with Boris and Farage, never let facts
    get in the way of your message.
     
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    Thanks for the comments and I agree that both sides if not guilty of down right lies, were certainly of being 'economical with the truth!!!'
    Over the last few weeks, I've spoken to quite a broad spectrum of my friends and my friends on FB, but I would say at least 95% wanted to remain so what happened???? OK Norwich where I live did vote to remain.
     
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