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Ex-Manager Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ElliotMP, Mar 28, 2016.

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Who would you have as our next Manager

  1. Eddie Howe

    8.0%
  2. David Moyes

    3.3%
  3. Unai Emery

    45.1%
  4. Ryan Giggs

    1.9%
  5. Frank De Boer

    8.5%
  6. Steve Bruce

    2.3%
  7. André Villas-Boas

    22.1%
  8. Anyone that Uncle Les picks

    30.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. The Frog Chorus

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    It's just about finding new ways of approaching things. I think it's a good thing.

    I think we would all agree that football and they way it's run is a tad broken nowadays (same for the world and how that's run), so as the saying goes... if you do what you've always done, then you'll get what you've always got.
     
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  2. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    This is true. There is little that is entirely new in Ralph Krueger's approach. These techniques have been around for donkey's years, although they do evolve. The crucial difference with Krueger is that he actually does it, not just talk about doing it. He will amuse Fran with his verbose nature, but everything he says Saints do, you can bet your bottom Canadian dollar they do. Which makes a change from the amount of crap we keep getting exposed to.
     
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  3. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Kreuger doesn't annoy me....gives me humour fodder, but have sat and listened to far less clever men than Ralph who seem to have swallowed a dictionary.
     
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  4. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Re-read my post. :)
     
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  5. Tobes

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    Posting from 5 am on other threads after having stayed up all night last night

    Sounds legit
     
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  6. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I hadn't realised it was a competition to prove yourself to Tobes. I must adjust my posting patterns to compensate...
     
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  7. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    Anyhow, thought you'd said your bit and we're going to buy people pints at The Oak? That's widely known as a 'goodbye'.
     
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  8. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    The Jet Lag seems to be killing you still FLT. Used to affect me too going that way round the World on my way to NZ. Via LA was no bother at all. Except LAX of course, which was a nightmare.
     
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  9. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if you're doubting me or not there Tobes. For the record though just in case..

    Monday flight -13 hours from 11:30am UK time ( so day time) - 1 hour sleep
    Tuesday - arrived local time 7:30 am (12:30 UK time - should have been going to bed) - Got 2 hours sleep that afternoon and then 4 hours over night
    Wednesday - went to bed 11:30pm ish (UK time 4:30pm)
    Today - woke up 4:30 am ish (5 hours sleep)....

    I'll be making sense soon :)
     
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  10. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Yep - haven't got a clue (what's new?). Managed to sleep for nearly five hours though last night. Be just about sorted and I'll be flying home :)

    Tonight will be a mare as England kick off at 9pm, which means staying up til around midnight... might be asleep in the bar
     
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  11. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    You should be OKish coming back. Don't go West by going East [to paraphrase the old saying] or you'll really be screwed.

    EDIT: Was trying to remember the time difference the other day. You're 8 hours into the future. ;)
     
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  12. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Looking at sailors?
     
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  13. Puck

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    Finally. Some people have been waiting five years for you to make sense! :)
     
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  14. Saint Helen

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    Nice change, then :emoticon-0109-kiss: <hug>
     
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  15. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Harsh, Helen. Fats makes sense sometimes....think it was a Sunday in March.:evil:
     
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  16. The Frog Chorus

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    It's a personal life choice. We shouldn't judge. Apparently he has a black box for that too. <laugh>
     
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  17. Schad

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    Not all the stitches in his face came from hockey...
     
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  18. Saint Helen

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    Must have missed it but I've been here less than a year so maybe not surprising... :grin:
     
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  19. I Sorry I Ruined The Party

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    Fits a bit too well?!? That story is preposterous.

    If Koeman were that actively hated or at least not much respected by the team, along with not playing the formation and tactics we wanted, AND blocking the path from the academy which is apparently vital to our philosophy, why were trying to extend his contract? We should be sacking him immediately.

    If JWP hates Koeman so much, then why would he sign an extension knowing that Koeman might be here another three or four years?

    I find it a bit difficult to envision a French-speaker from Senegal using the term "asshat." Possible, I suppose. But seems iffy.

    If he never wanted the Everton job, why would he fire his agent for refusing it? And why wouldn't Koeman's agent be aware of his intended bluff? Everton's interest was well known. So you just tell your agent to see what Everton will offer, and then you take that offer back to Saints and see if they will budge. Or you know what is a good way to get Everton to up their offer? Refuse their opening bid. It wouldn't be a problem that his agent turned Everton down initially, if their first bid was not substantive enough to apply pressure on Saints to match it.

    Okay, now picture yourself in Koeman's alleged shoes. You've attempted to play Everton off against Saints, and failed miserably. The board is basically like "We didn't even want you that much. And now we are really disgusted by this game you're trying to play so no, not a penny more for you and we're pissed." Now you're in a massive pickle. You don't actually want to go to Everton, you're burning your bridges at Saints. They have called your bluff. I'd be sweating bullets, and I would probably just sign the offer in front of me while it's still being offered. Maybe go home for a day and stew over it, and act like I'm really torn about whether to sign just to salvage my pride even though it's not fooling anyone. But I'm signing that contract quick before Saints change their mind and I end up signing a long term deal with a club I don't want to manage. Or, if I've felt I've gone too far and Saints is no longer an option then I'm signing up quick with Everton just in case that deal goes South and I end up in a hot mess. Koeman's response? He took a vacation.

    Who at the club would actually be in a position to know all of this stuff? Saints people know Saints stuff. And probably not even ALL Saints stuff. Just the stuff that pertains to their immediate job. If you were on the Saints board, would you be blabbing all this sensitive info. to co-workers? Yeah, but this guy isn't just privy to all of Saints inner workings, he knows what JWP, Tadic, and Mane think about Koeman. He knows why Koeman fired his agent. He knows who Everton's choice of manager was. He knows not just what Ronald Koeman is thinking, but also Erwin Koeman. Les Reed himself would not have all the info. this guy's supposed source knows. This guy already knows who we plan to transfer tells our ITK. But he doesn't say anything about who we plan to transfer in. He tells way more than enough to get him instantly fired if the leak is traced to him. But he draws the line at naming two managerial targets, though he's more than happy to blab about others. Isn't it strange that this guy has so much information that connects things that have already been rumored, and yet has (or won't reveal) any names that would be new? Like his all-knowingness stops at exactly the point at which he'd actually have to come up with a new name on his own.

    And the gobsmackingly obvious-- why would some high up person in Saints just sit down over coffee with some dude and spill all of this information? A guy who he apparently hasn't seen in a long time, but is only an ex-neighbor he just oh-so-coincidentally ran into at the grocery store. "Oh hey, it's you. How have you been?" "Oh, hanging in there. Things have been a bit tough recently as my father's been quite ill. You see, he--" "Yeahyeahyeah. Great, great. That's great and all. Whatever. Let me buy you a cup of coffee and tell you everything I know but shouldn't be telling you about Saints."
     
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  20. Lovelocum

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    My god this is getting like scooby doo.
     
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