don't get careless mate... please... those russians are not going to care what nationality they beat down... they have been allowed move citys and can stay behind and attack newcomers so its total utter chaos.
Yeah, going to have to be vigilant of the Russians. They are cowards who only fight when they outnumber the opposition 5 to 1. Some would say for the English it is karma for all the decades of chaos England have caused around Europe but the likelihood is that none of the people who have been injured in the clashes have ever been involved in previous English violence.
The stuff inside the stadium is indiscriminate as anybody could get caught up in that, peaceful fans, families etc since all the fans are contained there On the streets it's more those who go looking for it, the yobs in town for fighting, who get involved so less likely to be innocents getting beat up
they have been described in media here as desiring the "title" as biggest hooligans and targeted english.. i don't know about that. I would say that the descriptions we got here might be better or worse than over there i don't know but it sounded like organised and coordinated attack from one direction in fan zone in blitz and escape so if you are in a fan zone get away from anywhere thats a side street entrance or away from main cops. Then in ground i suppose message is if you are not in a totally main wales end be very cautious and look around for non french fans in section. My view is I would expect the marseille ultras and russians were in communication and planned it all frankly. Di you see the description of what occurred in ground? flare/firework launched as signal then they rush the line of segregation and rushed the stand.
the section rushed was MIXED... meaning UEFAs idea of segregation is to put families between the groups of fans. they feel its impossible to figure out who is english and who is russian as tickets go wandering so they have two ends but the stands are then pot luck Form the sound of the russians FA and authorities nobody should go to russia for world cup.
There is load of security around fan zones, I think Russians have targeted fans in pubs away from the fan zone because there is hardly any security out there. Problem is I'm not going to a fan zone for safety when it costs 8.50 Euro for a pint of ****ing Carlsberg...
prob married to his Swedish sex goddess wife and sitting there in the middle of them going... ja sure you' betcha... doing the chef off the muppets act for them. the swedish love that btw.
I was reading an article from a Russian point of view...they boasted of started on larger groups of England fans in smaller numbers. The idea was that it would be easier to provoke them into fighting because they had the false sense of security by strength in numbers. However, Russian fans retreated to narrow streets armed with gum shields and whatever fighting weapons which worked to their advantage. Proper '300' style fighting. Don't get dragged into it mate...I'm sure you wont.
Tbh there's more to admire about the Russian style and way of doing things than the English. Not that there's anything to admire in either
So next season guys: 1. clyne. bit average. nice rest on england duty though 2. Lovern not at euros due to falling out.. nice rest 3. Matip. plays for cameroon. ANC is coming up but this summer hes fresh 4. sahko. the drugs mule is going to be fit 5. morono... yeah... wtahever. 6. lucas.. fresh (useless though) 7. firmino.. very fresh in deed 8. sturrdige... unless hodgson make hin run a marathon a day in training he will not ned too much rest 9. henderson... ditto.. 10. minger... wont play for belgium who are going out in this round 11. karius. is he going to olympics really? over all.... we won't have too many players missing a large part or preseason on their hols. who else is too **** to be at a tournament or play in it?
I see the new prem fixtures are out tomorrow 9am. Can't wait to see what's in store. We will be away on opening day due to stand.
Anybody been watching the tennis at Queen's Club ? Gasquet (yesterday) and Wawrinka Today) both out first round, Murray through with Lendl back in his corner Weather's been a bit piss poor so lots of hold ups first two days
You leave Lucas alone y'bully he had a good season imo and didn't let us down when he played I would go as far as to say that if he'd have been brought on v Sevilla he would have stemmed the flow through midfield.
Is there a FIFTH fundamental force? LHC's new particle that doesn't fit with laws of physics could be confirmed within WEEKS In December, data suggested a particle six times heavier than Higgs It would not be described by Standard Model of particle physics More collisions started in April 2016, to collect more data Experts expect confirmation or refutation of its existence 'very soon' CERN spokesman told MailOnline it is still likely to take weeks By ABIGAIL BEALL FOR MAILONLINE PUBLISHED: 15:20, 13 June 2016 | UPDATED: 12:32, 14 June 2016 In he first signs of a particle heavier than the Higgs boson was seen at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) back in December. Unexplained by current models, its existence might lead to the discovery of a whole new set of particles and possibly even a fifth fundamental force. The first results were not enough to confirm the particle exists, but now the new particle could be confirmed within the next few weeks. please log in to view this image +5 Two of the detectors, ATLAS and CMS, were counting particle decays that ended up in two photons, and found a potential new particle. If it turns out to be real, and not a blip, this would be a huge discovery. Two high-energy photons whose energy, shown in red, was measured in the CMS is illustrated THE ELUSIVE PARTICLE Two of the detectors at the Large Hadron Collider - ATLAS and CMS - were searching for new kinds of physics by counting particle decays that ended up in two photons. Measuring photons is a way of detecting new and unknown events because photons are easy to detect and physicists know what to expect in terms of results from background events. When particles decay into photons, they release energy equivalent to their mass multiplied by the speed of light squared. The measurements saw photons with a combined energy of 750 GeV, making the potential particle six times heavier than the Higgs boson. If it turns out to be real, and not just a blip in the measurements, this would be a huge discovery. 'It would be something completely beyond the Standard Model, and the tip of an iceberg of a large new set of particles, if it exists!', the researchers said. In data produced last December at the LHC in Geneva, two separate measurements found what looked like a particle six time heavier than the Higgs boson. If it turns out to be real, and not just a blip in the measurements, this would be a huge discovery. 'We should have enough data by mid-July to either confirm the result or place serious doubt on its existence,' Professor James Olsen, CMS physics coordinator and a physicist at Princeton, told MailOnline. 'The CMS plan is to have an updated result using the 2016 data by the ICHEP conference in Chicago (starting Aug 3), although this timescale could be accelerated if the LHC outperforms expectations.' According to Dr Michele Redi. a research scientist at INFN Florence, writing in Scientific American, the hints of the new particle might be confirmed 'within just a few weeks, or possibly even within days.' 'If the bump is real, we are about to start writing a whole new chapter in the history of fundamental physics,' Dr Redi said. 'It is impossible to imagine where this could lead. 'We could know the answer very, very soon.' 'The LHC is in good shape, therefore delivering collisions and new data to the experiments,' a spokeman from CERN told MailOnline. 'It is clear that the ATLAS and CMS collaborations plan to analyze these data in preparation for the big conference of the year - ICHEP 2016 Chicago - early August - so in case they have enough data and there is something new, it should be known by then or just before. 'I would say it will still take a few weeks before we can provide an update about "the bump" as analyzing the data requires some careful work.' 'It would be something completely beyond the Standard Model, and the tip of an iceberg of a large new set of particles,' Professor John Ellis, theoretical physicist at Kings College London told MailOnline, 'if it exists!' Two of the detectors, ATLAS and CMS, were searching for new physics by counting particle decays that ended up in two photons. Measuring photons is a good method for detecting new physics because photons are easy to detect and physicists know what to expect in terms of results from background events. They both separately saw photons with a combined energy of 750 GeV. When particles decay into photons, they release energy equivalent to their mass multiplied by the speed of light squared. We’re all familiar with Einstein’s most famous equation, and this observation is it in action. This means the particle that produced these photons is an as yet unknown with this exact amount of energy in the form of its mass. ‘It weighs about 750 GeV, corresponding to about six times heavier than the Higgs boson, and almost 800 times heavier than the proton,’ said Ellis. It was a similar 'bump' that gave the first hints to the Higgs boson. But the difference now is that the existence of the Higgs boson had already been predicted. This new particle, if it exists, has not been predicted by the Standard Model, so would open up physicists to a whole new unexplored world and could lead to the discovery of a new set of particles. please log in to view this image +5 In December last year the two observations, in the ATLAS and CMS detectors, hinted at a new particle six times heavier than the Higgs boson. The LHC will start making more collisions next month, April 2016, and experts can expect confirmation or refutation in the summer please log in to view this image +5 When particles decay into photons, they release energy equivalent to their mass multiplied by the speed of light squared. The measurements saw photons with a combined energy of 750 GeV, about six times heavier than the Higgs boson, something that has not been predicted by the current theory describing particle physics The Standard Model claims everything in the universe is made from the most basic building blocks called fundamental particles, that are governed by four forces: gravity, electromagnetic, weak nuclear and strong nuclear. The forces work over different ranges and have different strengths. This new particle, if it exists, would not fit into the description given by the Standard Model and so would lead to a whole new area of particle physics for them to explore. Some have suggested it might even lead to the discovery of a fifth fundamental force. 'This is possible, but there must at least be a set of unknown particles to explain how this new particle decays, and probably how it is produced,' said Ellis. This development is exciting because the Standard Model has left some questions unanswered for years, so scientists are keen to break free of it and find new theories. It can't explain gravity, for example, because it is incompatible with our best explanation of how gravity works - general relativity, nor does it explain dark matter particles. STANDARD MODEL OF PARTICLE PHYSICS AND WHY THE FIND IS SO EXCITING The Standard Model says everything in the universe is made from the most basic building blocks called fundamental particles, that are governed by four forces: gravity, electromagnetic, weak nuclear and strong nuclear. please log in to view this image +5 The Higgs boson, named after professor Higgs, shown, was discovered in 2012 and is an essential component of the Standard Model The forces work over different ranges and have different strengths. This new particle, if it exists, would not fit into the description given by the Standard Model and so would lead to a whole new area of particle physics. Some have suggested it might even lead to the discovery of a fifth fundamental force. This development is exciting because the Standard Model has left some questions unanswered for years, so scientists are keen to break free of it and find new theories. It can't explain gravity, for example, because it is incompatible with our best explanation of how gravity works - general relativity, nor does it explain dark matter particles. The quantum theory used to describe the small particles in the world, and the general theory of relativity used to describe the larger objects world, are also difficult to reconcile. Nobody has managed to make the two mathematically compatible in the context of the Standard Model. According to the Big Bang theory, matter and antimatter were created in equal amounts at the start of the universe and so they should have annihilated each other totally in the first second or so of the universe's existence. This means the cosmos should be full of light and little else. But because it isn't there must have been a subtle difference in the physics of matter and anti-matter that has left the universe with a surplus of matter and that makes up the stars we see, the planet we live on and ourselves. But the observations seen so far are not enough to confirm the existence of a particle. The quantum theory used to describe the small particles in the world, and the general theory of relativity used to describe the larger objects world, are also difficult to reconcile. Nobody has managed to make the two mathematically compatible in the context of the Standard Model. According to the Big Bang theory, matter and antimatter were created in equal amounts at the start of the universe and so they should have annihilated each other totally in the first second or so of the universe's existence. This means the cosmos should be full of light and little else. But because it isn't there must have been a subtle difference in the physics of matter and anti-matter that has left the universe with a surplus of matter and that makes up the stars we see, the planet we live on and ourselves. please log in to view this image +5 The detectors saw photons with a combined energy of 750 GeV. When particles decay into photons they release energy equivalent to their mass multiplied by the speed of light squared. This means the particle that decayed into them would have been about six times heavier than the Higgs boson But the observations seen so far are not enough to confirm the existence of a particle. The CERN physicists need to make sure the observations were not just down to chance, so it comes down to collecting much more data and waiting to see if the particle is spotted again. Some remain unconvinced. 'Indeed, I don't see yet statistically convincing bumps that would point to the existence of a new particle in the LHC data,' Professor Patrick Janot, working on the CMS detector at CERN told MailOnline. The LHC started making more collisions in April, and the results that might confirm or refute the existence of this particle could be available soon. 'You will hear solid statements in summer,' Professor Janot said back in March, 'when a lot more data than in 2015 are accumulated at 13 TeV.' NSIOS
