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Off Topic The positive case for Remain

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Washysafc, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Then I'm probably wrong on that one then. Coal and steel however came down to the fact that our needs changed and it cost too much to run the industries. Much like shipbuilding.

    A sad loss but the sign of a changing world.
     
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  2. Bexinio

    Bexinio Well-Known Member

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    Yes it certainly doesn't help that our governments have been terrible and they have blamed EU a lot in past which has helped nurture this discontent.
     
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  3. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Hugely important. Thank **** I moved down under where I couldn't vote if I wanted to. I'd never want to because their politicians make Milliband, Corbyn and Cameron look like Churchill.
     
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    Bexinio Well-Known Member

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    Ha get me a job and get me out of here too :)
     
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  5. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    No we are not..More people having to use food banks than ever before and millions on low wage, part time and zero hours contracts. The law courts cannot try criminals because they are in financial crisis, the NHS is being torn apart and local authorities are struggling to meet basic services...The country is in the ****..
     
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  6. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    So todays goverment are coping your flack from something from the 70/80s?
     
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  7. Bexinio

    Bexinio Well-Known Member

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    I was only born in 78 so can't really talk about that time, but I can remember all main parties at some point using the EU as a scapegoat for, obviously the further right wing does most of the bashing. All I'm saying is if you see and read about 'big brother Europe' enough is sinks in and festers whether true or not.
     
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  8. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    The country has issues it needs to work through but I don't think it's quite in the ****. People aren't starving, they're being given access to food banks. Elsewhere they wouldn't be given the same infrastructure to rely on. It's not ideal but while the country works towards improvement people have access to what they need.

    Syria is in the ****, the UK just has a few concerns that need sorting.
     
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    I don't think we are in **** but I certainly think things could be better, can we do that better inside or outside the EU, that's the question I've been asking myself for weeks now.
     
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    All this rubbish about voting out because of immigration.

    I can just imagine all those immigrants camped over in Calais on June 24th if we vote Out. They'll all be looking at each other and saying, aw, damn lads, they've voted to leave the EU. Lets go home!
     
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  12. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    24th June. They will be in Frogland longer than the England team then
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    If that's the case, we need a change... like a football club sacks their manager, let's fire our boss... The EU.

    Only then will we get full control by parliament, of our country, the best one will be voted in, currently that's the one which doesn't contain Jeremy Corbyn. If Labour could dig a decent politician out of their ranks to represent this country, rather than embarrass it like he is doing, attempting to turn us into a nation of flower-giving surrenderers, then I think it'd be a formality, Cameron has his job by default, his opponents have been weak as hell.
     
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  14. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Thats one of my sticking points. Labour and that scruffy hippy are just as scary as the EU cretins.
     
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  15. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I hate the guy, his brother is an even bigger tosser, I'd love to jump on either one of their heads for 15 minutes.
     
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  16. Zlash

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    apart from when they agree to devolve powers to regions such as recently when 5 out of 6 councils in this region voted to have mayoral elections <doh>
     
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    Been reading all these comments and now is a good a time as any to say...i am coming out <laugh><laugh><laugh>
    The wife is also voting out as is daughter and son in-law.
    It will be interesting to see how many actually do vote out when the time comes to put the X in the box though?
     
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  18. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    As long as the 'Remainers' are favourites I'll be happy, it means the lazy remainer demographic are less likely to vote.
     
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  19. Charley Farley

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    I'm beginning to think there is something in this climate change.
    4 months ago it was cold but now it's quite warm.
     
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  20. MrRAWhite

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    And the people did not get a vote on this, and devolved power does not mean a jot regarding funding. The fact remains that London and the South east will continue to get a hundred times the amount per person than we do on infrastructure.
     
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