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Ex-Manager Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ElliotMP, Mar 28, 2016.

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Who would you have as our next Manager

  1. Eddie Howe

    8.0%
  2. David Moyes

    3.3%
  3. Unai Emery

    45.1%
  4. Ryan Giggs

    1.9%
  5. Frank De Boer

    8.5%
  6. Steve Bruce

    2.3%
  7. André Villas-Boas

    22.1%
  8. Anyone that Uncle Les picks

    30.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure that the club and Les Reed don't want that...
     
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  2. KillerCephalopod

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    Dutch Journo on twitter said same as current one, pointing out the massive potential payday for him.
     
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  3. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    What Les Reed won't want is Saints profile to diminish. That's one of the reasons why we got Koeman in the first place. He was the next step up. Howe is a step down. We are no longer a club which trains managers. That's for the likes of Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, WBA and similar.
     
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  4. KillerCephalopod

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    Only Arsene Wenger is staying 5 years anywhere. 2-3 years has become the norm in the Premiership. I certainly don't expect any new manager to stay longer than that (bonus if they do, though)
     
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  5. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Certainly I only expect a 2-3 year contract. Sure it could be renewed, but 5 years straight off, with no messing.? Very unlikely.

    Pardew at Newcastle, and look what happened there.
     
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  6. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    I personally feel that Howe is a better coach than Koeman already, the manager is just the figurehead it's result that matter and the structure of the club and its' academy.
    Howe is much more likely to be "on Page" with Les Reed about bringing through the youth as I feel that Ron's stature was a sticking point with the club's philosophy.
     
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  7. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Sod the coaching bit. Anybody can be the coach. We need the figurehead.
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I don't really hate my phone, for what it's worth.
     
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  9. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    Howe's been at Bournemouth for four years....
    Anybody can be the coach?....
     
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  10. Saints Fan4Life

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    Still nothings happened? FFS I want this over and done with.
     
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  11. KillerCephalopod

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    Yeah, 4 years maximum, maybe, if we're expecting him to stay for 3. Could also see that happening to get more compo when they leave. Anything more is way too risky in the modern era
     
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  12. Saints Fan4Life

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    Nah, Ron's nailed his colours to the Everton mast ... I'm sure Les Reed is looking forward, as I'm sure we can too.
     
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  13. Saints_Alive

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    It's not like we need a name to attract players as we choose the right targets carefully through the black box to come here within our wage structure. We are never going to be competing for the top end players, that's for the the mega rich clubs.
     
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  14. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    It helps. There's no doubt. It would also help to retain players. As I said earlier, getting a 'name' in will likely have the likes of Sadio thinking "hold on, this might be worth a go". Good coach or not, it could well be an issue with someone like Howe (at this stage). If the players on the brink are underwhelmed, it'll only really going to tip them one way. Remember, they're not really thinking five years in advance.
     
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  15. Saints Fan4Life

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    Seen us linked with Roberto Martinez ... please, god, no!!!
     
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  16. Saints_Alive

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    If players go, then so be it, we'll just get others in, I've got a feeling that Koeman will be in for a few anyway.
     
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  17. KillerCephalopod

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    Twitter saying comp agreed at £3.5mn/€5mn
     
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  18. Pelletron

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    Whatever Ron decides, Saints as a club have never been as attractive to a new manager as they are at this exact point in time, with no player sales as yet and in Europa guaranteed. Our stock is huge to any manager who fancies he could have got us two more wins last season and qualified us for the CL. We're in many ways the perfect professional challenge. Whoever Saints have lined up, the club has to be trusted to take full advantage of this position. There is no doubt it is always hit and miss when recruiting player or manager, but we'll be sure to maximise our chances of the former. We need a manager who knows the Europa League, basically, but has a good chance of keeping our keel steady in the PL.

    There is every chance that Ron could not keep us on the improvement curve - on his own personal level, therefore, it is quite a good time for him to move on, as his stock is at a peak. For Saints, a between season move is the absolute preference to the mid-season managerial movement that occurs everywhere. We are also at the start of a five-year plan, for which duration Ron would not have been staying. It happening now rather than post-Euros is also very good. I see this as a big opportunity, as I am sure the club do.

    I prefer that he stays - and have not at all disregarded the chances - not only because it will have a bearing on some key players; but then again, a higher profile manager will have the same retention effect for sure. The only players I can see wanting to follow him on the basis he's going are maybe Pelle and Clasie.

    As for who, there are a few easy (but unrealistic for salary reasons) options. Why people want to go near AVB, though, is beyond me. Thank **** he is a huge mercenary who believes I'm sure that he's too good for us. Not comparing the two at all, but I got ripped to shreds on here when I similarly mocked Newcastle's appointment of McClaren this time last year. AVB would take us lower half, even if he helped us win a few games in Europa. Besides which he is a charlatan of the absolutely highest order, who has been found out in footballing terms over here; who has a chip on his shoulder with a capacity twice that of SMS (for which reason the media over here dislike him vehemently); is over-eager to prove himself; cannot command respect of players; has a second-hand image he's modelled on Mourinho; and has a negative attitude. He is absolutely not the person to move on from Ron - he is half the manager, half the man, and should continue managing in one- and two-team leagues. Besides which, he will grade himself a Champion's League manager.

    I would readjust my opinion of the Board if they pursued him, and be concerned of their plan.
     
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  19. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    Decided to have a bit of fun with an old photo.

     
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  20. Le Tissier's Laces

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    If we lose key players, there'll be a twelve bore meltdown.
     
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