I'm totally on the fence with this one. I've heard so means arguements for and against........ I'm a patriotic Englishman who wants more home rule for ourselves, but is it such a bad thing to have so many allies? Probably out for me.
Totally agree with you Safc83, Advice to youngsters , run and don't stop until you reach Oz or NZ. This place is going to hell in a handcart. I think that Cameron is frightened of having to govern an independent Britain because we've let it go too far, education is virtually non-existent , degrees are 10 a penny, our capital is like a foreign country, health system is stretched beyond belief, more and more unskilled immigrants coming in that we have to support . At least Oz and NZ can control their borders, they still have their problems, big style, with immigrants not assimilating and bringing their problems there but nowhere near the problems that we face. Let's get out of this beauracratic farce that s the EU and try to reclaim our country before it gets worse.
I'm definitely voting to come out. But I'm not so sure it matters. At the rate UKIP voters have grown this last five or six years, it might well be you vote to come out or within a couple of general elections, you'll be coming out anyway. True, UKIP haven't gained a lot of seats yet, but the fact that they got more votes than SNP last time suggests the seats will come. But even if we stay in, with 25% of EMPs now skeptic, and with Euro front runners like France voting for Le Penn, the EU as we know it has very little future.
I voted "IN" 40 years ago to join a trading partnership. In a few weeks time I will be voting "OUT" of a grotesque all-pervading monster that has sucked all the independence, democracy, freedom and control out of my country.
We won`t lose them as customers either. If we leave is Germany suddenly going to say "Right, that`s it, you`re out, we`re not selling you any more cars"? Absolute rubbish. Trade will continue, possibly on better terms.
Exactly - hasn't done Norway or Switzerland any harm not being part of it has it? Was the worst thing Sweden ever done. I'm pretty certain if we do pull out Denmark will follow, they're pissed off to **** with it all too.
Austria and Hungary as well. The borders are going back up. How would it be if I invited 50 migrant families to come and stay with me then demanded the whole street take a share? Merkel has ****ed up big style this time.
Norway and Switzerland are incredibly small countries! Hasn't done them any harm because one has oil (and £8 a pint and a massive social welfare bill which everyone moans about on here), and the other holds the financial secrets of the rest of the world. You can't compare those 2 little countries with us.
These folk who think the EU gave us things we won't be able to keep, such as animal welfare rights etc... Come on ffs, oh we are out of the EU therefore we will now proceed to kill our meat and game by means of electric chair It's ridiculous, oh and also the EU gave women equal rights and maternity leave with pay, so expect if we leave for us to start stoning our women to death and sending them back to work the day after giving birth. The eu has allowed for a group of extreme Muslims to implement a Sharia Law zone in Luton, that isn't challenged by our authorities because they all have Human ****ing Rights!!!
5th or 6th biggest economy in the world Billy. Tiny island. Massive GDP. Don't underestimate the financial clout of GB! The financial ramifications of pulling out, on currencies, on bank and government stocks, on interest rates, shares and bonds, trade deals, etc etc, is immense. The impact of immigration will be a pin prick compared to the wider impacts. And let's not forget that regions like where I live are incredibly dependent on foreign workers. You won't find Brits working long hours, doing back breaking work, for mimimal wages, in the fields of Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, Suffolk, Kent or Essex.
There are rumours that the Bank of England are going to intervene, and completely circumvent Purdah law, at the last minute before this goes to the polls, if the race is deemed 'too close to call'.
You are in the aftermath of Hitler and Stalin. After WW2 the German constitution included a clause that it was committed to assist refugees, so now they are abiding with the law. Eastern Europe was under funded and stuck in the communist system for years from Moscow so no wonder they are looking west. Regarding coming to NZ, recent figures show that out of seventy thousand immigrants most were from China, Korea and India. House prices and rents are astronomical especially in Auckland and the land procurement system is still run like it was the nineteenth century. Overall this part of the world is economically lorded over by China with whom the NZ government has signed a free trade deal so we are subject to their needs and wants as it suits them. We have another free trade deal in the offing with the US but the full parameters are not known, but the biggst seems to be medicines would cost more. Either way they hold the strings.
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