The contrast in emotions between Hull City and Sheffield Wednesday...

Saturday is our 2008 for Wednesday. Although Allam has helped City a great deal, he has recently done just as much damage to the club's core.

Very sad.

 

I think some are heading for dissapointment if they think a change in the board will mean an improvement in atmosphere.

Fans create atmosphere, and we've a fair few that look to blame others or hunt negativity and block progress, instead of thinking '**** 'em' and getting on with having a fun day out themselves, like we did in days gone by.

 

Sums it up nicely

 

And then have a comment about 150 years from a Wednesday supporter. The truth is most have no connection at all to what happened before they were born, even if they want to make out they do.

 

This ^^^^

 

Bloody hell Dutch, do you mean like continuing to attend to effect that change? Not having a go, as I rarely attend, but that does come across as rather accusative and not very self-inclusive, as I have always thought you had to be in it to win it.

I really don't think any significant number of supporters really believe a change in the board will be responsible for an improvement in atmosphere (this board is reasonably representative of opinion and I don't recall seeing that view on here), most will hope it will lead to a change, for the better, in relationship and communications between owners (club) and supporters - from that change there might be ideas and true, honest collaboration to try and improve atmosphere. The atmosphere has never really recovered from the change to seating only, in days gone by the circumstances were very different; some clubs do have the craic when they are in a decent streak of form, but they struggle to achieve it all of the time.

First and foremost this club needs to treat its customers with respect, they need to fulfill their promise of making the club a viable, well run commercial enterprise, where commonsense and best practice prevails, they need to stop telling lies and most of all, they need to get someone in to head-up the business who understands football and what constitutes a good football manager.

 

The two parts of this I totally agree with.....

comments made by the the owners – which have been all three of brilliant, bizarre and reprehensible – the ultimate result has left many thousands of Hull City’s core support left feeling alienated.

Hull City have spent four season in the Premier League. Their first began majestically but ended desperately, their second was despondent, their third was rather more promising but their fourth was underwhelming once more. It is great to see one’s team challenge in the top flight, but the reality of the Premier League for Hull City fans is ludicrously expensive tickets to see fewer games, in which you lose most weeks, clawing desperately for survival whilst playing in increasingly sanitised atmospheres.

 

Spot on Fez

 

Clubs do not generate atmosphere, supporters do.

I used to sit in the South Stand and one supporter would always be on his feet at every opportunity to wave a City flag. People would point at him and say stuff like "He's at it again". If you shouted, they would turn round and stare.
We moved to the West Stand Upper and one or two would shout or join in a chant, but not that many.

I had no choice but to move to another stand last season as I could not buy a half season pass for the West Stand Upper. The North Stand is now graced by my miserable presence.

I stand and sing and chant, not every chant, some I just can't be arsed with, but a fair few. Its different, but only like an away game is different.

My point is this, Before the present owners came in the atmosphere, in some parts of the ground was ****e. Changing owners will not change anything, there are too many supporters who simply go to a game as an alternative to going shopping, it is something to do, cheap affordable entertainment.

I admire the passion shown by some supporters, I like to take a little piece of it and claim it as my own, but the truth is that when I sit amongst the Wether Mint generation, I conform. I don't want to be the one who stands up alone, waving a flag, with fingers pointed at me.

If we want a great atmosphere we have to do something about it, no one else, the supporters.

 

Spot on.. The owners are a part of the problem, but blaming them for everything misses problems created by our own fans.

The solution is in our own hands.

 

That's really quite patronising, TOM.

Many supporters go to a game to watch the football, not the antics of some brain-dead twat with his back to the game, obscuring the view and generally being a nuisance to others. Most will get caught up in the excitement of the game, but the team need to give them something to be excited about; when they do we hear the resultant chants, songs and cheers, which has always been the case.

As for chanting all of the time, I think that is there for them that enjoy it, it isn't everyone's cup of tea (in fact it seems to be the option of very few); many like to catch up and talk as they might only see each other at home games (how many times have we seen that given as a reason to stop the moves). They might want to discuss performance, tactics, the league situation and the opposition; TV/internet coverage has given folk so much more depth and breath of conversation topics than really existed 20 - 40 years ago. Why some football supporters see themselves as the only sport that must be noisy and raucous to demonstrate their passion for the sport they follow is beyond me. Go to grassroots and see the passion of those that follow that and graft to keep it going - you won't experience too much chanting, just good old-fashioned passion, quietly stated. What's cheap about a day at the KCOM, when the shopping will be done with or without them anyway?

It's about time folk stopped blaming other supporters for what is simply now the modern game and supporting experience. Are you still the Comms rep for the OSC?

 

Hardly cheap, and seldom entertaining........

 

Excellent summary. Written with a maturity well beyond his years.

 

Some mates of mine sing and chant with the best of them at away games.not a sound at home games though.i think the football is a bit uninspiring. Who said it was cheap entertainment.its neither

 

Support has always been and always will be about the fans backing the team, not the club owners, I`m sure owners can improve atmospheres at grounds, given what the Allams have been doing it`s hardly surprising that people have become slightly disenchanted with the club, but this stinks of cutting off ya nose to spite your face to me.

The article above has hit the nail on the head with the comment regarding the glamour of the Premier League, having witnessed it at first hand its a soulless place that we try to survive in so we can feed off the scraps on the table. But with a modicum of success in it, the fans will roll back, prompting calls for expansion of the stadium again. Let`s hope whether we win or lose at Wembley, the rumour regarding new owners is true, and that the feel good factor returns with success off and on the pitch, and harmony returns..

 

Spot-on article from young Alfie, that.

 

Looking on Owlstalk it seems there are going to be plenty of Wednesday in our ends

 

Bring back concessions.

Make the north stand our cheapest stand for under 21s

That would be a start...