This has to be a joke, surely? Since we last beat you, we've finished above you every single season except for this one. Your biggest achievement has been finishing 15th. It's been ****e and I'd rather finish 17th and do the double over you than 12th and lose to you twice but still, to say no one has ever had it worse against their rivals is ridiculous. Yous have been consistently ****e for as long as I can remember.
Didn't Sam Allardyce drop Defoe for a period earlier this season Defoe is the person who kept you in the Premier League, not Sam Allardyce.
See, I dispute that. Real? No. Inter? **** league, no money. Prestige I give you. Chelsea? Stop gap. Napoli? Did a great job at a great club but let's not forget only last 3 years have they come back, and they are not an Italian super club. They had a few years in the Maradona era but have mainly yo-yo'd since. Liverpool? Again yeah, big club. Half the issue is you are belittling your own club. A potentially huge club in the biggest league on earth. Rafa is a good gaffer, don't though kid yourself that he's above your station or your not worthy, cos that's simply not true. That's what baffles me in this I have no argument you've got a top gaffer in, but I simply don't see this god like status, don't see that he's the ultimate aim for a club like yours. The English league can cherry pick because we are rich as ****. Clubs with huge crowds and history should have an extra leg up on that.
You've got all this mixed up. Allardyce kept Sunderland up, Benitez relegated Newcastle. Not sure why you are keep going with this Would you like pictures?
Typical deluded jawdee The thing is, who could we ever go for that can compare to Rafa? I see comments about how the English league can cherry pick now but I don't see the evidence outside of the massive clubs and the Champions League clubs. There's a reason that people like Allardyce, Pardew and Pulis get job after job after job. Leicester went for the recently deposed Greece manager We are a massive club, with massive potential. But when was the last time a top manager joined a club because of potential? We have scarcely had European football in the last decade, that's what managers will look at. This is a unique case as far as I can tell. Generally, those next level club like West Ham and Everton have to take gambles on potential in managers like Bilic and Martinez.
In that case, Advocaat kept you up this season. Fair play to the bloke. Big Sam had the easiest job in the world as you were already safe thanks to Advocaat's efforts
6 in a row 9 unbeaten We relegated you Now, what you, your Rafa and the rest of your boys need to understand, is that we own the North East. It's ours, no doubt about it. You are our bitches and you are in our shadows. Now, less of the lip and go sort that mess of a club out. Bitch.
The manager side is difficult as generally they are in jobs, or lined up for jobs. It will filter when it can, Stoke signed Shaqiri, Bojan. Swansea signing the likes of Ayew on a free. It's there for all to see mate. Was Bilic a gamble? Great record for Croatia, loved at the club, took Beskitas from also rand to head and shoulders ahead of the 2 biggest sides in Turkey. Martinez, his stock was high he won Wigan the cup, a miraculous achievement. I do agree mate, Rafa is probably at the very top level you could have achieved right now, but to say somehow he's operating beneath himself at Newcastle, no, he isn't. I honestly think we could start to see this season, I think Pelligrini, a wonderful and badly mistreated manager may well end up at an mid table club. Why? The fans. The league. The money and the passion. Lower table clubs pulling 40k plus, endless noise. Any club in the Premier League is a draw to anyone in football bar the top 6 of them that are on that constant cycle. Rafa is an intelligent man and he knows full well he's got a potentially great job but with all the pressure piled away from him. Nobody outside NUFC will say he's beneath himself at that club.
You're fighting a losing battle here, mind, Thrush . . . . don't say that you haven't been Warninks(ed)
A combination of Defoe, Allardyce, the January signings giving us a backbone, lack of injuries after January, and luck kept us up!
The reason he's considered above their station and why they're so elated with his appointment is because their manager list for the last 10 years looks like an abomination of awful ****ty losers. McClaren - great coach but terrible manager. Carver - ****ing hell Pardew - absolute weasel Hughton - ok they'd have taken him but they got rid against the fans wishes Shearer - absolute joke of an appointment Kinnear - he was brilliant for everybody else Keegan - they loved him, he was the one, but he got booted Allardyce - Mr Marmite, half of the Sunderland fans have been saying how **** he is before the survival was confirmed Souness Roeder who else? Rafa has more major honours to his name than that lot combined, whether people rate him or not on his individual merits, he wipes the floor with that lot.
Just cos you make a few **** choices that doesn't make the first half decent one the sun of an August bank holiday morning mate!
All this love for Rasta at the minute is just great for Newcastle. If things don't start too well for them in the Championship, that is assuming he stays on which i am fully expecting because of the "lurve", then the bed sheets will be out in force asking for his head and agent Ashley's too. Fickle fans.
It's definitely being seen with the players, I just haven't seen it with the managers yet. If Emery moves from Sevilla to Everton then that may signal the start and I will revise my opinion. It's easy to talk about Bilic in hindsight, but one national team and the Turkish league does not make a manager. I also don't think Martinez stock was that high as he relegated Wigan that year. I till like him as a manager but he was a gamble. It's up for debate if Rafa was working beneath himself when he joined us, but he definitely will be if he stays next season with us in the Championship!!! Pellegrini is a top manager and I'd expect him to go to one of Europe's bigger clubs. If he ends up at an Everton or someone like that then again, that may be a sign that things are beginning to change.
*half of the Sunderland fans were saying how ****e Allardyce was* I genuinely must have missed that, mate. The vast majority I know, wanted him to stay regardless of the league we were playing in, next season. Sorry @Despicable_Tel forgot to copy your post
They won't be getting anybody better though will they? Of course they'll be disappointed if he leaves. He's the best manager they've had since Bobby Robson. After Keane, Sbragia, O'Neill, Ball, Di Canio, Poyet and Advocaat who between them had about as much vision and direction as a blind man in a rowing boat in a storm, you've got Allardyce who is known for being organised and strategic, many fans are happy that after years and years of utter ****, you've got one that looks like he knows what he's up to. No difference.
2 months ago you would have said that we'd all turn on Rafa if we get relegated. Load of ****e. Take your head out of your sister's hairy muff and back into reality.
