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Match Day Thread England vs. Turkey

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Quill, May 22, 2016.

  1. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    You asked somebody to say it and I obliged.

    You're shifting the goalposts.
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Come on here any week (when he plays) and you'll see our fans fury at Elmo's diving.
     
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  3. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    Elmo must be. To be honest Abel doesn't throw himself to the floor, which is concerning given he's an Uruguayan who spent years playing in Italy. He punches people but he's surprisingly honest on the pitch.
     
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  4. GLP

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    They made the reserve list. First up are the elite divers.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    Hernandez isn't a diver.

    Though Elmo is.
     
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  6. ellewoods

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    Sort of. Its a South American tournament that invites teams from North America (and Japan once) to play in it. Mexico is almost always invited to play. It is also not on a set schedule sometimes its every 2 years, sometimes its every 3 years.

    Here are the teams in it this year.

    Argentina
    Chile
    Colombia
    Brazil
    Uruguay
    Ecuador
    Mexico
    Costa Rica
    United States
    Paraguay
    Peru
    Panama
    Jamaica
    Haiti
    Venezuela
    Bolivia
     
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  7. Bengals Tiger

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    England beat just about everything put before them during Ramsey's time. That was a GREAT team, with great players and innovative tactics.
    Chillo back then was as athletic as just about anyone you'll see today, and Waggy as full of trickery.
    Post-Magyar, the game changed rapidly away from the almost ubiquitous 2-3-5 formation, and Winterbottom and Ramsey both played key roles in that. Overlapping fullbacks, sweepers, libero's, and "ghost"players like Martin Peters emerged during that time.
    Overall, football was as "beautiful" then as it is now, different, but neither better nor worse. And City were just as frustrating.
     
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  8. petersaxton

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    It's a dive.
     
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  9. JohnTheFox

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    I agree with this. In the sense there is contact and he's not diving over thin air as some have done in the past, it casts doubt on whether it is a 'dive'. What he does is causes the contact and if he's going at speed it will make him go down. Because of this the penalty seems harsh so it does need clarifying. Should the ref simply give the goal kick or corner etc and make it clear that engineering the foul won't work
     
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  10. spesupersydera

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    In theory what you write is absolutely fine, in reality though - what we have is a set of conniving, cheating, ****s who are forever searching for new ways of winning penalties and, worst of all, getting some ****er sent off; allied to this, we have a poor referee who sees events in real time, events that, even with multi camera angles and super slo-mo, still create debate in studios and living rooms.

    The ONLY way to stop it is for a panel to analyse contentious incidents after the match, anyone caught fiddling should be publicly flogged, and in the ugly **** Vardys case, sterilisation should be forced on him to stop any chance of him infecting the gene pool ........ or something along those lines.
     
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  11. ellewoods

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    It should be treated just like they do in hockey. In hockey it doesnt matter if there is contact, if you go down to easily or try to draw a call you are given an unsportsmanlike penalty. They should treat it similar, if you go down to easy, or try to draw a call, you get a yellow card for acting in an unsportsmanlike way.
     
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  12. spesupersydera

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    Hmmmmm, myself I prefer the flogging and forced castration to a yellow card ..... would you go for yellow card first offence and then flogging and castration for serial offenders?
     
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  13. ellewoods

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    I think that is an acceptable compromise.
     
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  14. spesupersydera

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    Top man ...... job's sorted <ok>
     
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  15. GLP

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    Surely the litmus test for any great team is what they achieve in terms of honours. It's great sweeping everyone aside, but you need to be able to do it in tournaments. We've only managed it once in '66, which was probably expected as it was on home soil.

    It was certainly more robust back then, changes in materials for kits, boots, footballs, better pitches have certainly made the game more technical and arguable much quicker.

    I agree regarding City,which City will turn up at Wembley is anyone's guess?
     
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  16. Shropshire Lag

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    Attendance was no doubt affected by direct clash with the big game at St James Park. Scheduling madness.
     
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  17. Quill

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    I bet the stadium would've been full had Man Utd not been in the FA Cup final.

    Even though most Man Utd fans live in London, there are still a few from Merseyside out there.


    Despite that, there were really no excuses to not sell this out.
     
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  18. Bengals Tiger

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    Agree with all of this, but the degree of entertainment was about the same, possibly higher, back then.
     
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