I aren't being funny like, but as a supporter of tinpot Hull City in 1993 I was surprised at the attendance of the Cup Final that year between Arsenal and SWFC. It was 79, 347. They drew and replayed it on a Thursday in front of a 62, 267- surely the lowest Cup Final gate of the last 100 years? Arsenal must have had at least 40,000 and it's a **** to get to on weekday night as we all know, but 62 267 though. Unless they're going to play the 'too many Wembley games- we're skint' card?
It wasn't the lowest Cup Final crowd of the last hundred years.That was 50,018 for Villa v Huddersfield 1920. The Cup Final got 340 more there than Man Utd v Liverpool a couple of years later. Reference, that replay, in those days Cup Finalists got 23,000 tickets each the rest went to the FAs around the country. There is no reason to think Arsenal had 40,000 there. It could be they both had the official 23,000 there, which would have been 46,000 and the rest were FA ones. How many do you think we would take for a midweek replay? Workday, kids at school so they can't go, no trains at that time of night. Too many Wembley games, we're skint.
I don't mind Wednesday. My mate at uni's a Wednesday fan and he's looking forward to a Yorkshire derby above all else at Wembley. Their fans at the KC this season were class. Another good thing about Wednesday is that Leeds fans hate them so I always remind the Leeds fans I know that Wednesday are a bigger and better club than them.
As Sheffield will officially be part of the Midlands this time next year, does it still count as a Yorkshire derby?
South Yorkshire accents are closer to East Midlands than North and East Yorkshire. South Yorkshire does exist but it shouldn't.
Bits of Sheffield are already in North East Derbyshire and North Nottinghamshire, so it can't really be a proper one.
Since 876 AD Sheffield was part of the West Riding until the 1970s, when it became South Yorkshire. It' still a Yorkshire derby in my eyes.
Ok then , the lowest ever attendance for a Wembley final That's Sheffield, a metropolitan area of 1.569 million including recently- arrived Roma folk, some 141 miles from Wembley and on the M1. They can't all have been auditioning for The Full Monty in the morning. It would never have happened in the days of the EBRA.
A lad on my course at uni from Middlesbrough doesn't regard Middlesbrough as Yorkshire. I think we should return to the old Ridings.
Not at all merely providing some facts to dispel the myth that City is some Mickey Mouse club with a small ( potential ) fan base. If it were based on the 'now' we would obviously be bigger. And it's not from the whole of history it's the highest achieved for each club. In any event it's not about 'who's' biggest it'll be who's the best
That would be Sheffield with an urban population not much more than Hull with 2 football clubs. The Sheffield Wednesday who are only one of 13 clubs to have averaged 40,000 or over for a season. None of which was ourselves . Or Leeds United.
I'm not interested in Wiki hair-splitting over populations. Sheffield is ****in massive compared to Hull, which you can drive through in 20 mins from E to W, green fields to green fields, docks to Humber Bridge. Urban Sheffield goes on for miles from Rotherham to the Peak district, it ****in dwarfs Hull. We are a club who had over 50,000 in the 3rd tier v SWFC - does that make us tinpot or a giant?
I have always though of Sheffield as been where the Midlands start Are you been serious Mr Hat ? Some of your posts have been quite sensible lately as well
If we had over 50,000 against SWFC in the third tier that would be impressive. However we didn't. We once sold over 50,000 for the Rotherham match on Christmas Day in the 3rd tier, though "only" 49,000 turned up due to a transport strike, which was impressive. Though Cardiff once had 52,000 in the 3rd tier so they will be massive as well, won't they? Good luck driving from Bilton to the Humber Bridge in 20 minutes. You can quote metropolitan areas all you like. That is bollocks. It includes places like Rotherham with their own football clubs.