St. Totteringhams Day

afraid not! I will remember!,.

 

I couldn't give a ****. I will scoff when I feel like it

 

Please do. Just don't be surprised when it comes back and bites you in the arse!...

 

I leave that to HIAG, he's the specialist in comments that come back to bite him on the arse.

21 years and counting. Scoffing rights reserved

 

This season has been so brutal for Spurs!

 

I vividly recall the end of the 91/92 season. We got so close only to blow it and lose out to Leeds. I thought at that point that we'd never win it.

I'm not sure how that is relevant to this thread or Spurs.

 

Well it could be relevant because maybe, like United in 92, this will kick Spurs on to dominate the league for the next 20 years.........but I doubt it...

 

Possibly although we finished second, only 4 points behind the winners. Plus, as Ruthie has pointed out, only United were allowed to buy new players when the PL was formed.

 

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Que?

 

Except it and youll be happier.

 

... errrrr . no .... take a look at the league table

 

You would have but then again getting so close and falling short is painful.

I remember us a couple of years back. We were also not fancied and came very close.

The Chelsea game was a painful experience.

It makes me laugh when half arsed journalists pinpoint the Palace game - we'd lost it by then.

In the end the fact we'd had a good season in no way made the fact we hadn't won more bearable.

 

That hasn't happened for the past 21years though

 

TBH, I think any chance of us winning the title went when we only drew at your place. To me, winning it is great, the rest is nowhere. So, 2nd or 3rd we still get group stage CL.

 

All bets are off when the season ends competitively. I never say a team has won the league by '10 poi nts' for example. I say they won it by '4 weeks' - as points become largely irrelavent as soon as the maths has taken care of it.

By similar logic - in my view spurs had the better season, whatever the table tells you. They were mathematically in with a shout of catching leicester longer than anybody else - tools got downed when they couldnt win it, but in my view they were the 2nd best team.

However as an outside the '21years' thing is quite amusing - not as amusing as the lasagne thing mind

 

Noooooooooooooo

The team that finished in the higher position in the league had the better season.
Maybe you could argue that Spurs had a better season in relation to expectation, since Arsenal were expected to challenge for the title and Spurs were expected to finish 5th or 6th.

 

I dont have stats in front of me - but i imagine they would show that top teams drop a disproportionate number of points once the title is sewn up. The edge has gone and tools get downed and players lose it a bit. This is human nature. I still think at least at the top, the team that provides the champions with their last mathematical hurdle to leap are the second best team, whatever happens on the last day.

Controversial i know...

 

Trouble is the chance of winning is so low, difficult, and the competition usually is so high that its difficult to be happy as a fan imo.

I thought you'd lost it against West Brom, but yeah, you would have really put the pressure on Leicester had you beaten us.

Progress you can be happy with but, for us at least, that goes in cycles and ends up with us falling short every 5-8 years, then spending time 'in transition' and then building up to another chance. And on...

If you're not careful you'll get comfortable with minor success like with Arsenal. They're so close but just don't seem willing (the board) to do what it takes to win the league.

I've only ever thought we'd have a chance 3 times in the last 16 years and even then we were underdogs.

- 2001. We were pretty good, built on an excellent defence with Hypia and Henchoz but were up against a very good United and a pretty good Arsenal team and just were not quite good strong enough. Had a few weak positions in the squad unlike United. But I was happy as we won the UEFA cup, FA Cup and Worthington Cup.

-2009. If you compared our squad with United's' then we were inferior. We had a very good 8/9 players, 5 of which were outstanding (Gerrard, Torres, Alonso, Reina, JC) and a few very consistent, reliable players like Hypia, Kuyt, Mascherano and Riera. But our squad was nothing on United's and I think it showed in the end. We called on players like Dossena, Benny, Babel and Lucas.

I thought we'd blown it way before the end when we lost to Borough, and even before then we had lots of draws - in particular to West Ham. Then we had a great run towards the end but came up short.

Had we had 1-2 more class players then I think we would have won - we were only 4 points off with 86 points! We were short up front which resulted in the draws which ultimately cost us. We only had Torres and Kuyt to rely on as well as Gerrards goals. We tried to rectify it with Keane which failed badly and that cost us.

That is the best Liverpool team I've watched but were not quite good enough. Gerrard and Torres were absolutely unbelievable that year though.

- 2013. That season was a real surprise. I was expecting 4-6th and all of a sudden we started really well and kept building from there. We were a good 'team' that year - the squad wasn't that great but played really well together. Suarez and Sturridge were outstanding, but people forget how good Skirts and Henderson were and Gerrard, Sterling and Couts also played really well.

I'm always sceptical with Liverpool but I started to think we would win after we beat City but it was a huge ask to keep winning every game and we came up short.

I'm proud of the effort that year.

When will we have another chance? God knows. Win tonight then 2-3 years we might have another charge. Lose and it becomes a lot harder.

Next year Spurs stand a very good chance. If you freshen up with a couple of players then there is no reason why you cannot have another go.

 

... the wekness in your logic is that taking it to extremes you might even argue that Newcastle had a better season than Sunderland ... last 6 unbeaten and spanked Spuds 5-1 ... don't think Sunderland could match either stat ... BUT!