So basically what you're saying is he has fewer goals and assists than our front three so with him in the team we would have been worse off. Nice one Bobby!
I see you are moving the line there my dear stan... i was debating whether Pedro was garbage or not.... seeing as he's roughly the same goals/assists as mata and Rooney... i'd be interested in your views. Also i owe you 20 odd quid in my wager to you on pedro... how would you like that?
He's not garbage but he's not suited to English football. What was the wager?! Would you be happy to give the money to charity?
Yes more than happy to give to charity (as i'm guessing giving bank details to a chinaman could be pretty dodgy). I actually remember saying that and you said you didn't want to do that haha. Wager was for around 27 quid (cant remember exactly but that will do) on Pedro finishing with more assists/goals than any united player. Which charity would you like to me send it to?
Cool, just about to do it... do you want a screenshot or anything as proof or you happy that i'm a man of my word (considering i brought up i lost in the first place)
YES!! He has been garbage for Chelsea this season. That is not to say he is a garbage player, but he has had a garbage impact on your team this term and certainly hasn't met the standards he had set at Barca. He certainly hasn't made Chelsea a better team. And don't try clutching the straws on this point. Being better than It is what it is! But then again, you could just take it that he plays for garbage team which inherently makes him infinitely garbage.
Have you watched him play? Whilst his ball retention skills aren't the best, he's also looked dangerous on the ball and he's finished as one of our most effective players if you look at stats. If you look at our team, it's because we are leaky as **** and can't defend for toffee. I think it speaks volumes that our 2nd top goalscorer is garbage in a garbage team yet we've outscored you guys by plenty even though you have the best young talent the country has to offer....
You've outscored us? That makes you a better team? What type of ridiculous argument are you proposing? You've been completely sht all season and you're actually trying to compare your shty situation as the worst defending champions of all time to our shty situation? Give me a single positive point from Chelsea's season.
Di Maria would have been a success under a better manager. Di maria was a world class player when we bought him, he was playing at the highest level and van gaal made him lose form. Accepted there was an adaptation curve and a better manager would have guided him rather then sleigh him. Why didn't Wenger sell ozil after the first season? Di maria was played in cm, cam, right wing, left wing and the worst was him being played as a striker at the expense of Rooney and van persie. Look, if Mata was a player in the class of di maria do u really think he would be happy being played on the right wing while lingard plays in the middle? If there was a better player playing in the middle that would have been understandable, but only lvg thinks lingard would do a better job than Mata in the middle. This affected us against spurs, rose was constantly running at Mata on the right and lvg didn't see anything wrong with that, and to make matters worse he brought in Ashley young to play as a striker. Ask urself, if di maria was in man city do u think he would have left? I would bet he would still be there playing well.
I very much doubt it will happen as there are bound to be additions to the squad, but it would be very interesting to see this exact same squad of players perform under a new manager. Only then would we be able to see just how much damage LvG's pedestrian football has done to these players. With one or two exceptions (Carrick and Schweinsteiger) our squad is extremely quick across the ground and I would love to see them play free, expressive and attacking football - a bit like letting your dog off the lead at the beach.
There isnt a positive point about chelseas season. The point i was making this garbage player whos playing garbage has more prem goals than all your players (i think) bar martial. A sad indictment about how garbage he is and your forwards are.
He has 10 goals plus assists in 32 games for Chelsea in all competitions. Rashford has nine goals plus assists in 17 games, Lingard has 12 in 32. Rooney and Mata have 19 each, and Martial has 25. Even Memphis managed 7 in 29 games. Garbage is probably overdoing it, but the fact is he has performed worse than our five main attacking players, despite our team being the most defensive in the PL this season. Hardly an advert for his quality, is it?
I absolutely do not buy the idea that LvG made Di Maria lose form. I mean, then what exactly is Di Maria responsible for if the person we all want to point finger at is the manager. Is LvG responsible for Memphis too? Or all our transfers in the distant past that didn't work. Di Maria bottled it!! There were other things too to consider... his house got burgled and it was said that his lady was not happy in Manchester. All players lose form at some point. Martial lost form between October and December, for example. But they have to keep going to rediscover form. Hazard lost form this year... was that Jose's fault as well? Was Ozil's average first season Wenger's fault? Any player that blames the manager for lack of form is a bottler. Players need to start taking personal responsibilities and stop looking for who to blame for their dip in form.
Mate I went to see United several times last season. You see stuff off the ball that you don't on the telly. Through games, Di Maria would be trying to link up with players and in particular making runs off the ball, waiting for the ball, only to watch it being played sideways and backwards at the behest of our manager's philiosophy. He would turn around to see where the ball was and his body language looked abject. He was the ONLY one with any pace and it was being wasted. In particular the FA Cup game against Arsenal when he was growing more and more frustrated, collecting the ball deep and trying to drive forward only for the players around him to offer him no support. His sending off was purely down to his growing frustration through the game.
Yes all players lose form. Van gaal has been a little softer this season then last season, doesn't mean he's not still rigid though. Martial lost form at some point but the manager kept playing and encouraging him. In di Maria's case the manager completely axed him from the team and he had to watch from the bench game after game. Whenever he comes on it is out of position, u can't expect him to be in the right frame of mind. Di maria is not the kind of player that needs 1,000 passes, he is always looking to go forward and pass forward. Yes he will lose some, but he will get some right. That's his game. Van gaal didn't encourage him enough that's the fact. And van gaal's style of play was a factor too. When hazard lost form, he was not completely axed from the team, he was benched for a few games but was always brought on gradually.
Treble, the fact of the matter is that he didn't want the transfer to begin with. It was forced on him. Thus, I attribute his loss of form solely to his inability to integrate himself and adapt. He would have played just as well as he did for PSG this year in his second season. He would have got the Ala Madrid out of his head and actually start consistently. Wasn't Di Maria actually injured? I believe he was rather than being kicked out of the team. He still played 27 matches for us. He has played 28 times for PSG if we want to compare. We can't blame LvG for Di Maria's failure. Same thing goes for Memphis.
