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Let's All Take The Piss Out Of Newcastle... / Relegation Party

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Joelinton's Right Foot, May 10, 2016.

  1. Zlash

    Zlash Well-Known Member

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    clever enough to get a great job but not bothered about being understood?
     
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  2. Toon_Man_Sam1

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    It's nearly £43m lost over the last two years!!!!! WOW
     
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  3. Zlash

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    Big Sam hit it on the head last night with his post-match interview. wages go up, fees go up, improvements are marginal. it's about spending wisely and for the first time since we came back up; in BSA we have someone who I trust to improve the team without wasting bundles of cash. the amounts we've thrown away over the years on mediocrity is scandalous.
    i'm under no illusion that just because revenue goes up it doesn't immediately fill every other bastards pocket without guaranteeing tangible results.
     
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  4. leez

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    wouldn't say I have a great job .. I just by like other people ..and I'm getting old lol
     
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  5. Zlash

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    ****ing hell.
    couldn't believe what maggie byrne was quoted as earning compared to her newcastle counter part.
    it beggars belief.
     
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  6. Toon_Man_Sam1

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    Forbes rich list is out today

    Soccer Team TV Earnings 2014-15
    1. Barcelona $192 mil
    2. Real Madrid $189 mil
    3. Chelsea $167 mil
    4. Manchester City $166 mil
    5. Manchester United $163 mil
    6. Arsenal $163 mil
    7. Liverpool $156 mil
    8. Tottenham Hotspur $150 mil
    9. Southampton $139 mil
    10. Everton $136 mil
    11. Swansea City $136 mil
    12. Newcastle United $131 mil
    13. Stoke City $131 mil
    14. Crystal Palace $103 mil
    15. West Ham United $129 mil
    16. Wst Bromwich Albion $123 mil
    17. Leicester City $121 mil
    18. Aston Villa $116 mil
    19. Juventus $113 mil
    20. Hull City $112 mil

    Look at the teams above you in Tv Money eant over 2014-2015!
     
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  7. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    Both of our clubs have proved themselves as having an amazing ability to appoint some ****wits through the years - ours more than yours probably in recent times. As for the rivalry between us, for me that goes on the back burner for now. Over the years I have seen you in the league above us, I have seen you in the league below us and I have seen you two leagues below us. I have never seen either of our clubs able to affect the other one's finishing position when we weren't in the same league. I love beating you in the derbies and hate losing. I love finishing above you in the league and hate finishing below you. It always comes second to how we are doing overall though. I wouldn't take any pleasure in finishing above you if we were 2nd bottom and you were bottom. As it is, we stand no chance of finishing above you next year in the league and, barring a cup draw, no opportunity to beat you in a derby. I am hoping - but far from taking for granted - that we can renew our rivalry after one year in the top flight. I don't want the rivalry to be renewed in the championship, as you lot getting relegated wouldn't take away the disappointment of not getting promoted (not that I expect you to get relegated).
     
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  8. Zlash

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    cant do anything about who TV execs choose to put on. I'm under no illusion that we're not considered a fashionable club but this means **** all really. Juve below Villa, Leicester, WBA, Palace etc. doesn't insinuate anything about them.
     
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  9. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Sorry you're down lads. You're a good crew on here <ok>
     
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  10. Lord Jonjomort

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    What?! Nobody told me we were being relegated to another forum an'all, that's just a kick in the knackers.
     
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  11. Albert's Chip Shop

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    We drop down the page mate.... :(
     
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  12. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    Get yourself a laptop. The championship becomes a sideways move and not a drop!!
     
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  13. Toon_Man_Sam1

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    Ive looked at the championship Forum and of the 24 teams only 12 (which is 50%) of the teams have had comments on their boards in the last month.

    They all seem to be as active as the Aston Villa page, poor Larry!
     
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  14. Lord Jonjomort

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    Total opposite of Sunderland, who only seem to come to life with 1 month remaining.
     
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    Was just trying to wish some of you the best marra. :)
     
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  16. Brian Storm

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    No you're not, you're universally hated with every account you've ever made. You've lied, manipulated and called everybody on the up and down because they didn't agree with you.
     
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    If you want an example of hubris, look no further than Newcastle’s boardroom
    The startling reality is that despite spending £80m on new players this season – only Manchester City invested more – Newcastle have still ended up in this mess

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    Mike Ashley has now overseen a second Newcastle relegation from the Premier League. Photograph: Ian MacNicol/Getty Images
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    So John Carver was right after all. A little over a year ago Newcastle United’s interim manager claimed even a world-class coach would struggle at St James’ Park and, sure enough, Rafael Benítez has vindicated his theory.

    When, two months ago, Benítez succeeded Steve McClaren, he had 10 games to keep Newcastle in the Premier League and, justifiably, fancied his chances. Nine of those matches later – two won, three lost, four drawn – the Tynesiders are relegated but this costly tumble into the Championship is not remotely the Spaniard’s fault.

    In the circumstances Benítez has done pretty well. His much improved team are on a five-game unbeaten run but the squad’s flaws have proved too great to prevent the former Liverpool and Real Madrid manager being relegated by Sam Allardyce.

    Had he been appointed slightly earlier things would have been different but, as it is, Benítez is now deciding whether to exercise a break clause in his three-year contract and flee or put up with a season in the Championship with a club he has already fallen at least half in love with.

    After apparently being offered control of transfers as well as the green light to overhaul the academy, medical department and training ground, the indications are he may well say “yes” to Mike Ashley, Newcastle’s owner.

    Were this stance to be formalised before Sunday’s home game with Tottenham Hotspur those fans who had planned to turn out en masse and beg Benítez not to leave by serenading him for 90 minutes will find the pain of relegation anaesthetised.

    Yet should he walk away, the sense of the second-tier sabbatical being a case of having to postpone Newcastle’s return to Champions League combat by an extra season will evaporate. Anger could be expected to complement the inevitable, crushing, mood of anticlimax, with the new manager – and Hull’s Steve Bruce is being mentioned – almost certainly regarded as a significant step down.

    Considering this is Newcastle’s second relegation in seven years, the board’s failure to insert clauses into players’ contracts reducing salaries by around 50% in the event of losing Premier League status seems negligent. If anyone wants an example of hubris they need look no further than the St James’ Park boardroom.

    The enduring high wages make unloading unwanted individuals more complicated. Take Henri Saivet. Recruited under Newcastle’s old model whereby the manager had no real say in who came or went and the idea was to sign players aged 25 and under with potential resale value, the midfielder cost the best part of £5m and earns £35,000 a week. McClaren barely picked him, an unimpressed Benítez does not deem Saivet worthy of a place on the bench and buyers are hardly likely to be queueing around the block.

    All clubs make transfer market mistakes but Newcastle, with recruitment masterminded by Graham Carr, the chief scout, and Lee Charnley, the chief executive, clock up far more errors than most. Even worse, they appear to be strangers to the concept of building a team as opposed to collecting a disparate, disconnected band of individuals.

    Behaving like shoppers who snatch assorted pieces of sometimes ludicrously expensive designer clothing from rails without considering whether they may match or if colours will coordinate, the pair ended up creating the opposite of Leicester City.

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    How else do you explain the startling reality that despite spending £80m on new players this season – only Manchester City invested more – they have finished up in this mess?

    Whereas Allardyce spent £15m very well on Jan Kirchhoff, Lamine Koné and Wahbi Khazri in January, Carr and Charnley furnished McClaren with £30m worth of new blood in Saivet, Jonjo Shelvey, Andros Townsend and the on-loan Seydou Doumbia. Of that quartet only Townsend is starting games under Benítez and Doumbia, borrowed from Roma, no longer travels with the squad.

    Of the £50m summer spend, the £12m winger Florian Thauvin is back on loan at Marseille and the jury remains out on Georginio Wijnaldum and Aleksandar Mitrovic. The biggest indictment, though, is that a squad already arguably hampered by the presence of too many Francophone players were structurally holed. Critically Benítez’s first few games in charge saw him forced to deploy midfielders at left-back.

    If it is no exaggeration to say that for want of a left-back Premier League status was very probably lost, the folly of refusing to consider signings in their late 20s upwards is highlighted by the 33-year-old Jermain Defoe’s heroics at Sunderland. Granted, the former England striker possesses negligible resale value but by securing safety, his goals have been worth at least £100m to Sunderland.

    Ashley’s decision to delegate football responsibilities to Charnley and Carr while using his public-relations adviser, Keith Bishop, as a go-between, has backfired spectacularly.

    If questions must be asked about the futures of Charnley and Carr – although it is thought Ashley may reprieve the latter – the owner and Bishop would be unwise to try to engage Benítez in hardball negotiations. Behind a warm, genial exterior the 56-year-old is a consummate political operator in whom the Sports Direct owner may have met his match. Unlike McClaren or Alan Pardew, Benítez is not cowed easily and his slick personal website suggests he could teach Bishop a thing or two about PR.

    Unlike their Wearside neighbours, whose latest accounts showed a £35m loss, Newcastle have recently recorded healthy profits (£32m at the last count) and will benefit from next season’s £37m parachute payment available to clubs relegated from the top division.

    Further funds should also be recouped from the sale of players such as Moussa Sissoko, Wijnaldum, Papiss Cissé and Townsend – although the St James’ hierarchy may fight to retain the latter – leaving Newcastle well-placed to rebuild a squad capable of bouncing straight back into the big time.

    Shelvey, bought for £12m from Swansea City, wants to stay and could prove highly effective at Championship level but it should never have come to this. Not after spending £80m in a single season.

    Trouble has to be faced, though; what matters now is somehow persuading Benítez to stay before allowing him to implement far-reaching reform. The alternative is too agonising to contemplate.
     
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    Good old Louise Taylor... Mackem lass apparently...
     
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  19. LiamO

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    The Championship is the new Premier League man.! Every ****er watches it..We will be on telly every week.!!
     
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    Aye Jack. Righto.
     
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