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Things We Think We Think #227

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  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    1. The mood has shifted a little in the aftermath of Saturday’s 5-1 gubbing of Rotherham. Quite how much remains to be seen and its ultimate effect is presently unguessable, but there’s no doubt that walking away from the stadium on Saturday, things felt better than for a little while. A comprehensive victory in the sunshine will always lift the mood, and we shouldn’t get too carried away; lets enjoy it for what it was and hope it has a small but useful effect in the coming weeks.

    2. It certainly was a pleasant watch. Rotherham were obviously hopeless, but the way City put them to the sword in the first half was thrilling. There was a buccaneering spirit in the side again, with inventiveness and vigour – it was all too much for our lowly visitors, but you suspect it’d also be hard for any side in the division to handle. The challenge for City is to replicate it in the next two, and perhaps three games.

    3. The quality of goals was impressive. Abel Hernández’s overhead kick one of the finest ever seen at the Circle, but Diamé’s, Snodgrasses and Livermore’s second would have lit up any game.

    4. Derby, then. They’ll be a formidable proposition, and memories of their double over us this season continue to stalk us. We’ve achieved fourth, which means the second leg at home – a theoretical advantage, but it does mean surviving the first leg with the tie still alive. That’ll mean overcoming a hostile home crowd – Derby, having competent owners, fill their stadium and engage with supporters, so we’ll be up against it. And goodness knows that City have gone missing all too often when things get a bit difficult, and have a nasty habit of capitulating when conceding first.

    5. It’s hard to guage what we need to do. Away goals don’t count extra, so the imperative to pick one up isn’t there; you’d think that any sort of draw would make City favourites to progress. But do we try to almost end the tie with an away win, as per Watford 2008 – do we dare? Would that risk a heavy defeat we’d struggle to come back from? Is it better to keep it tight and rely on our home form to carry us to Wembley? Steve Bruce has a lot to consider.

    6. The bookmakers make City narrow but definite favourites to win the play-offs, despite finishing with a whimper in fourth place. Hmm.

    7. This being City, it cannot of course be about on-field issues. There was another significant red card protest against the club’s decision to scrap child and senior concessions. Sadly Ehab Allam continues to lack the guts to attend home games, but did find the time to write nauseatingly smug, error-strewn drivel in the programme attempting to justify the decision to hollow out our support for a generation.

    8. Again, it all comes down to the alleged misuse of concessionary tickets at the gate. We wonder if Ehab would like to explain why this issue, which presumably other sporting clubs across the land have also faced, can be solved elsewhere with the retention of discounts, but not here.

    9. Friday was the (extended) deadline for keeping your seat, and it appears that City sold just 6,000 memberships by the time it elapsed – compare and contrasts this to 21,000 at Derby, or 15,000 at Huddersfield. The impact on the club is obvious and grave. We’re going to be among the most poorly supported clubs in whichever division we’re in next season. How is that going to attract players to the club?

    10. However, there is a serious human cost too. Families are being forced to give up season tickets because of steepling price rises. Senior citizens are having to walk away after decades of support. For those on social media, it made Friday night a thoroughly depressing read as countless stories of distressed City fans being forced out were told. Well done, Allams. Your legacy at the club is the destruction of its support and your reputation in this city is in tatters. For all of our sakes, just go.

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  2. lakesideview

    lakesideview Active Member

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    I would like to think that the 6,000 membership is correct, how do we know if it is?
    If so it drives a dagger through the disasterous scheme.
     
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  3. FILEYseadog

    FILEYseadog Well-Known Member

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    A chunk of the made up 6,000 will vanish when we dont go up.
     
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  4. East_Stand_Always

    East_Stand_Always Active Member

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    Regarding the mis-use of tickets. I've been a guest of the in-laws at the Etihad and they have a light system on the automatic turnstiles. Red for OAP's/Green for normal ticket and amber for concessions. Steward inside turnstiles can see lights, spot the punter and can pull aside any potential offender to check ID. Hardly rocket science!
     
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  5. Chilton's Hundreds

    Chilton's Hundreds Well-Known Member

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    Now I've read Ehab's program notes from Saturday and the way he wrote as one about T's & C's of corporates and 'members' I'm now thinking
    the 6000 figure includes the corporates.

    Which means take up of the new scheme is much less then the 6000
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    We already have the same system, ours fell down because some of the stewards were as bent as the people using the dodgy passes.
     
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  7. Mr. Shoes

    Mr. Shoes Well-Known Member

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    If we don't go up and it implodes I may cancel my direct debit. And they can sue me for the 4 months cash. I'd be interested to see them take action to get the four months based on nothing taken by me in return.

    No payments taken until July, so it remains to be seen what happens if I walk away and rip up my renewal.

    I renewed as I didn't want to lose my seat, and my place, and my family tickets to make a point. I'd reconsider if the manager walked, the squad evaporated, and the stadium attendances collapsed.

    Maybe shallow, but reality.
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    If you cancel before July 1st there's no penalty, it will cost you nothing.
     
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  9. Mr. Shoes

    Mr. Shoes Well-Known Member

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    Thanks

    I can see ruin if we don't go up. Fan Apathy, along with an exodus of personnel.
    And I want to protest by withdrawing, but don't want to deprive my family of something we enjoy and that facilitate keeping in touch (it's almost a 180 mile round trip for me).

    EDIT- can't see the early cancellation term anywhere. I got half way through the actual contract online before giving up. Is it documented somewhere obvious! Thanks
     
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  10. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I just watched their pod cast on Periscope, well worth a listen when it is posted tomorrow.
     
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  11. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    Bit funny making a point about how we generally drop our heads when conceding the first goal in the same article as praising our 5-1 win where we conceded the first goal! :p

    But on the whole another good one.
     
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  12. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

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    I thought first payments were scheduled in June? That's what I was told by the ticket office.
     
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  13. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Have we got one of them anymore?
    Was it an automated message from a machine? ;)
     
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  14. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    "At the third stripe, it will be nineteen, o four... precisely. (toodle) pip pip pip".
     
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  15. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    It may well be that 6,000 have sent their membership forms in. But no-one has paid a penny yet, no payments are due until July so it could be said that this 6,000 includes fans who are just saving their seats and those who genuinely have bought a cheaper deal in one of these zones?
    The 6,000 could all easily cancel before July.
     
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  16. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Nobody has moved into a cheaper zone yet, only people who wanted to reserve their existing seats have joined, anyone wanting to move to a cheaper zone can't do so until next Monday. I'm aware of some who've joined with the intention of cancelling before it starts, but it's obviously not all 6,000.
     
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  17. lakesideview

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    Yes shallow !
     
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