Transfer Rumours The Summer Transfer Rumour Thread 2016

I agree. Of the three options -- Koeman extends, Koeman leaves, Koeman sees out his contract -- the latter is the one that would concern me the most.

 

Mirallas must have gotten himself sent off again.

 

Yeah, you're right......let me correct it.

 

McCarthy is quality.

 

I'd say we're about evenly matched. I wonder what their salary bill is compared to ours.

 

Yeah, good shout.

 

You cannot say that just because he left us. There were many other factors at play there, chief of which being his main sponsor being shuffled out. The painting of him as some duplicitous chameleon is slightly ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

 

As is Deulofeu, despite his inconsistency. He and Mane with Lukaku up top would be wildly variable, highly chaotic, and an absolute joy to behold (most of the time).

 

Yes, but it's my ridiculous duplicitous chameleon opinion of him.

I've decided to make the effort not to like him.

 

Yeah, I don't get it either. Same with Lovren, Lallana etc, I lose track of who did/said what to upset us. It's their careers and they don't owe us anything.

 

I did it without any effort at all.

 

Ah, now that's fair enough.

 

Admittedly, if it took a lot of effort I simply wouldn't have bothered. Being able to do it with no effort at all is admirable. If I had a hat on I'd tip it to you.

 

I get where you're coming from, but a lot depends on the timing of his decision to leave. At Feyenoord he announced he was leaving in February and they actually finished higher than their previous season's position. Feyenoord announced his successor not long after for the next season which meant he must've let the club of his intentions, but possibly not the players.
I agree that if he says he in not staying in the summer, then it's best for both parties that he moves on immediately.

 

The key point in this though is that if he doesn't sign this summer, or very early in the season, the players could see it as him not signing. So much has been made about him honouring his contract that to me it would very much appear like he's off if he doesn't sign this summer.

They discuss the plans regularly (they've told us that) and we've pitched our 5 year plan to him. Once the season starts it "won't be the right time to discuss one"... If I were a player in those circumstances of think he was off.

What's the point of waiting?

 

Additionally, if we're trying to convince players over the summer of the validity of our new plan, it surely would help if the manager had committed to it. It needs to be done fairly early in the summer at that, or it will start to undermine our position.

 

I'm not hugely worried about this specific rumour of Koeman being off to Everton as I think Martinez is a goner in the summer anyway and I believe Koeman when he says he will see out his contract, and there is no way that Everton do not appoint a manager for next season.

 

I cant help but think that Ron is waiting to see how our transfer shapes up before making a decision on his own furure.

Its all well and good to theorise and outline plans and entirely another to put them into practice. If every summer window acts as a reset that involves us selling established players and replacing them on a budget it would be entirely reasonable that he would get frustrated and not see any kind of long term future at saints.

The club have a huge wad of money heading there way and a good squad with only maybe 2 or 3 additions needed (imo) so hopefully our focus this summer will be mostly on player retention to demonstrate a willingness to progress and back managements long term vision in practice as well as theory.

 

You know, you've brought this up pretty much every chance you've had for like a week now.

It's pretty lame. You like to play the big man and pull the "I'm done with this conversation" card, yet you are the one who won't let it die.

You are also the first to act aggrieved that your words are being twisted yet you delight in doing it to others. I've said nothing about Lukaku.

 

If we go into the next season with Ron on the last year of an unrenewed contract, then the extent to which thst effects the olayers depends on how well he manages his relationships with them. That's partly why in England the head coach's job description is "Manager" - because it's his resoonsibility to motivate and to holistically manage individual personalities and the whole group. Some of the best coaches in football fail at that whatever the circumstances - Mourinho springs to mind - while others excell - like SAF winning a title in his last season at Man U with what was far from their greatest team.