Cloghie was always the main talking point with us kids, not about whether he would score but how many!
I think many who voted for him may have been influenced by their old man, without even seeing the guy play. My dad used to go about him when I was a kid.
You are pribably correct there. The greatest player ever to play for SAFC? Not easy to give an answer to. As everyone see's things differently.
Could well be, mate. It's a generation thing, isn't it? My old man had a brother about ten years older. They used to argue like cat and dog, My old man worshipped Raich Carter whereas to his elder brother Carter was a donkey compared to Charlie Buchan. I used to sit quiet in the corner and thought they were both nuts - Shack was obviously the greatest ever!
Think your first sentence has hit the nail on the head. Plus you are wrong SKP is the correct answer.
For longevity of service too one club, not to mention he was usually a class act when he played you can't look further than Jimmy Montgomery. Keepers never get rated like they should cause they don't dribble and score goals for obvious reasons. He is Defo in my top three in my time watching since 1959, along with Hurley for his leadership qualities and SKP for his goalscoring exploits.
I knew a woman who was at the 1933 Derby county f a cup game record crowd (Billy Simmons the programme experts mother), she had to sit on the touchline she was very young and them days with no floodlights they had to play in the afternoon, and some supporters were there about 5 hours before kick off. I would like to hear about the Spurs 1961 and Man u 1964 games, they say Man u was incredible how I wish I could travel back in time. For me Wembley 1985 was unbelievable the noise when the teams came out, you cannot explain it unless you were there. I was back there in 1990 with the seats installed and it was not the same.
Well from memory he had great positional sense, a goal poacher but he didn't have the work rate of the current generation of strikers so a modern day equivalent is difficult to come with.
Billy Simmonds died a good few years back and if i remember right he was often on my bus going to away matches in the 80s!
Every supporter that went to away matches in the 60s and 70s knew Billy Simmonds, and his mate Gentleman George Foster is still going strong, I see that the club have finally given him a lifetime season ticket at 90 years old. I was at both of those games, Spurs 1961 and Manu 1964 but the difference was that the Spurs game officially had 61000 in and they certainly made themselves heard , but the Manu game attendance was never ever known because the exit gates went down in the Roker end and thousands streamed in. I was in the Roker end and there was loads of room because the police did the right thing and shut the gates completely. All I know is that it was nowhere near capacity for that game..
Well the thread was aimed at the elder poster, and its been an interesting read. But ive never heard of this Simmonds bloke. Mind i wasnt born till the end of the 60s.
I'm sure I remember him having a column in matchday programmes on club history in the 80s, when I was kid. Can anyone confirm that?
Well. That needs a bit of clarification though. Liverpool won two league titles (under ex-Sunderland manager, Tom Watson) in the first decade of the 20th century and (going off the top of my head here) the FA Cup before that (1898 or thereabouts). So they had a decent history long before Shankly. Their demise began in 1951. They narrowly escaped relegation till 1954, but only because of one player - Billy Liddell. Billy played for them, I think, nine years and was top scorer for them in eight of them - not bad for a winger, eh? Really, Liddell was the only member of that team worth twopence, so much so that the club's nickname was Liddellpool. When Shankly was brought in from Carlisle, Billy had already retired, and it needed re-building from scratch. Shanks didn't make a bad job of it though, did he? PS. Billy Liddell had one great plus to his name on top of keeping Liverpool afloat - outside of Roker Park, around 1953, he gave a kid his autograph. That kid has it in front of him right now! Guess how I know.
I remember collecting my milk cup final ticket from some little shop right next to Roker park! Was it a supporters club shop of some sort would anyone know? And i'm sure i used to book my seat on the away bus from a hatch in a brick wall lol right next to where i got my milk cup final ticket. Mebbies i'm losing my mind!
