Match Day Thread Liverpool V Everton

look on the bright side

a) he might be lying

b) he might carry off two wins??

 

He's said he's going to field his strongest side on Weds mate.

 

No chance we're going to get a result at Anfield.

Our form is absolutely rotten, and you're flying.

 

Defensively both teams aren't great.. Could be a goal fest..
Now I've said it.. could be the worst 0-0 Derby in decades....!

 

well as long as we don't take that attitude..... that's all i should care about. Its a funny game who some can raise their game when a derby comes around.

 

Well if we field our strongest side we won't park the bus looks like he's going to go about it arse about tit....

I predict 2 defeats and an empty managers desk by next week?

 

He won't be going before the season ends mate.

 

Everton / Martinez situation feels a lot like the Rodgers end-times. Some fans want him out, some say he needs a defensive coach, some have given up hope. As managers they're cut from the same cloth, that's why we were interested in both before the great pretender got the gig ... decent enough managers, will get a team playing some reasonably attractive, at times exciting free-scoring stuff at upper mid-table level with all the talk about aiming higher than that (well Bobby M will for a season or two then he'll get you relegated ), but they're not complete managers with noticeable limitations, there will always be a flaw or flaws in their coaching and tactics which leads to frustration for fans who want the team in the mix at the top of the table

 

The vast majority want him gone now mate.

He's had 3 years and we're going backwards

 

If he wins you the FA Cup he'll be going nowhere #strengthinnegotiation

 

Not sure even that will save him now tbh.

If the decision was Kenwright's then I'd say that scenario would definitely save him, but Moshiri is calling the tune now, so it'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

The fact that they've been actively speaking to people, tells me he's done either way, but you can never be sure.

 

you wuld have to be just slightly worried that you "know" they are speaking to people.

I mena ok guardiola and city isn't rocket science and it was inevitable that when guardiola came up all 3 of city utd and cheslea would be in... but for everton?

The business should be behind closed doors. It only makes the team perform worse and that risks FA cup run.

 

4 home wins all season mate.

Is it any wonder they're looking to bring in a new man?

 

Good thing the away form is better mate, otherwise 4 wins at home is relegation form!

 

no frankly not at all.

but i think sometimes the giving up point where players are totally off on hols in their heads can be hard to define. When did everton players go on their hols?

Last year LFc players went off on hols after utd game. they hung in for villa semi but then blew that as they were already not giving enough so.....

 

That's sort of the point mate.

Adios Brown Shoes.

 

The West Ham game was a turning point on and off the pitch.

2 up with 10 men and he brings on a second striker, and we lose 3-2.

#tacticalgenius

 

well give everton have won 9 that might not be the case.

4 wins x3 = 12 points. 5 wins away = 15 points so another 14 draws as they are safe... really what separates everton and LFC is those draws. turn 5/6 into wins (and they threw that many in bin) thats another 12 points...

That's I think whats so frustrating no?

If you were not good enough you'd say ok fine we are **** but to throw it in the bin yourselves is so annoying.

that what my feeling last 6/7 games last season of rodgers. how he remained is a mystery i hope only explained by klopp being lined up after holiday but i just feel the cash spent in the meantime indicates gross incompetence as our only excuse.

 

JP: Jurgen, how much are you looking forward to your first Merseyside derby?
JK: I am really happy about this. In our really busy schedule it's nice for me to have a game where I don't have to think about finding the right words.
KR: Motivation?
JK: Yes, it's clear. This morning when we were in the dressing room and we spoke a little about Sunday's game at Bournemouth I don't think anyone was really listening!
They are thinking about Everton. I'm okay with that. That's really cool. It's very exciting. It's important too.
Derbies are always difficult to play because you have to handle the pressure. There's no advantage or disadvantage for either side.
For me, I like these special games. I've been a manager since 2001. That's 15 years and each game is important. But with special games like this it's different from three or four days before it.

KR: We didn't really have team meetings with Howard (Kendall). He would only name the team when we were on the bus going to the ground. He would just go: 'You're No 4, you're No 6, you're No 8....' That was it.
JB: Kenny (Dalglish) was the same. He always picked the team an hour and a quarter before kick-off. We would all sit down and he would ask: 'Are you fit?' Then he'd bang the team out. Joe Fagan would always name his team the day before. I wish he hadn't. When he told me I'd be making my debut in 1984, I didn't sleep that night.
JK: This was a different time. A lot of things have changed since then. When I started analysing games in 2001 I had a DVD recorder.
I'd be at home watching the games just on a normal TV, watching what I could and trying to figure out what we would be facing a few weeks later. The problem was in the team meetings I'd always have to keep going back and forwards with the footage, trying to get to the right part. It was so boring for me trying to reach the exact moment. I was like 'oh my God, what am I doing here?'
But that's how it all started. Now we have two pre-match meetings, two post-match, we have analysts and analysing games is a big thing. That's the biggest difference next to the physical things. When you guys played could teams make substitutions?

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Jurgen Klopp at Melwood talking about the Derby with Kevin Ratcliffe, Jim Beglin and James Pearce.

 

KR: We went from having one sub to two subs out of three on the bench. Then it was three out of five and now obviously it's three out of seven. I was manager at Chester and it absolutely killed us when it went from three to five to seven subs because we had to pay bonuses to those on the bench.
JK: Now they are thinking about having nine subs but we don't have the space for it! The idea is they want to bring younger players closer to the first team. But the problem is that if they are sitting on the bench they can't play so it makes no sense. It's better for them to play for under-21s than sit on the bench.
JP: Jurgen, you're no stranger to derbies following your time in Germany. What were those games between Borussia Dortmund and Schalke like to be involved in?
JK: Firstly at Mainz, when we went up, nobody really thought of us as being in a derby because we had no real history. We were close to (Eintracht) Frankfurt for example but they thought 'nice to meet you, but next year you'll be in the second league again'. With Dortmund it was pretty different.
JB: The Ruhr derby.....
JK: Absolutely, it's outstanding. In my first season there in 2008, on our fourth matchday we played against Schalke. Our first three games were against Leverkusen, Bayern and Cottbus but nobody spoke about those games.
Leverkusen, really difficult, good side, we could have lost 6-0 and nobody would have been interested.
With no success at the club, the only game in the year everyone was really interested in was the derby. In Dortmund they say the derby is more important than the championship. You can feel it around the game. My first derby there didn't start so well.... (laughing).
JP: You were 3-0 down....
JK: I know!
KR: That's a bad day.
JK: No wait, we came back! (laughing). Schalke should have scored another goal. They had one of the biggest opportunities I've ever seen in my life early in the second half.
Kevin Kuranyi, it was 10cm, maybe 15cm from the goal. He missed the ball! It could have been 4-0! In that moment I really thought about my wife Ulla. I thought: 'I hope she knows where the suitcases still are because we might need to pack!' (laughing).
It would have changed everything if they had made it 4-0. After that we came back.