The whole system is bogus. It is not for Governments to elevate anyone above the rest of us on, very often, spurious gounds. Beckham is more worthy than some because of his willingness to act as an ambassador on things such as Wold Cup (in which he surely couldn't have had any personal interest) and the Olympic bid. My view is do away with the lot, but while they are around, Beckham is as worthy as many.
I think that this award - should it come to pass, is premature to say the very least. Beckham's motives for his unpaid ambassadorial work may indeed be altruistic. However, I think it's far too early for that decision to be made, assuming that, that would be the basis of the knighthood being awarded. And, I can see no other valid reason for awarding it.
You must be a very young man to think DB did more than Adams, Peter B Shearer or the truly world class Scholes and what of Billy Nick and Shanks? football men all who gave more than DB was ever capable of giving
Adams gave everything to the team England and has done more than anybody else to assist young players with addiction problems, Shankly and Billy gave style to the game that was copied worldwide The point? simple for me DB would be a long way down any reasonable list for "services to football"
'Hereditary knighthoods in Great Britain and Ireland There are traces of the Continental system of hereditary knighthood on the British Isles.[citation needed]. Notably all three of the following belong to the Welsh-Norman FitzGerald dynasty, created by the Earls of Desmond, acting as Earls Palatine, for their kinsmen. Knight of Kerry or Green Knight (FitzGerald of Kerry) — the current holder is Sir Adrian FitzGerald, 6th Baronet of Valencia, 24th Knight of Kerry. He is also a Knight of Malta, and currently President of the Irish Association of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. Knight of Glin or Black Knight (FitzGerald of Limerick) — the current holder is Desmond FitzGerald, 29th Knight of Glin White Knight (see Edmund Fitzgibbon) — now dormant Another Irish family were the O'Shaughnessys, who were created knights in 1553 under the policy of Surrender and regrant[14] (first established by Henry VIII of England). Since 1611, the British Crown has awarded a hereditary title in the form of the Baronetcy. Like knights, baronets are accorded the title Sir. Baronets are not peers of the realm, and did not sit in the House of Lords when it was a hereditary house, therefore like knights they remain commoners in the view of the British nobility system. However, unlike knights, the title is hereditary and the recipient does not receive an accolade. The position is therefore more comparable with hereditary knighthoods in continental European orders of nobility, such as ritter, than with knighthoods under the British orders of chivalry.' Trust wikipedia... Well, I certainly think Dalglish deserves one ahead of Beckham. -Services to sport (for Liverpool and Scotland) -Charity (Dalglish foundation for cancer ward) -Service to the Liverpool area (JFT96)
The aristocracy are very good at smiling assasinations - it's an ancient tradition. Sounds like Dalglish should be perfectly suited to join them.
I thought that someone would say this, but I decided I'd trust you to be more mature. Does it matter, really, which football team we support, when we support someone for their charitable actions? There is more to life than football, but no, but your tin hat back on, get into your trench and tell yourself it's just us against them.
As they put it in WSC last month, Dave Richards is a good example for doing away with the honours system altogether. He took Sheffield Wednesday from being a respectible Premier League team to one with no money and no Premier League status, ditching them in their relegation seasonto become chairman of the Premier League, and doing nothing of note at any point in that role - so, naturally, he was one of the figureheads for the 2018 World Cup bid team... Besides, of all English footballers who ever lived, Bobby Moore was the most deserving of a knighthood, but he never got one. In fact, Beckahm isn't even the most deserving former MUPLC player - Bobby Moore is.
Oh dear me, I used the letter 'b' instead of the letter 'p'. Assumptions abound! You're quite an argumentative person, although I'm sure you'd disagree. You do seem to love making assumptions. Besides, you still haven't given a reason why he is any less undeserving than David Beckham. I don't think the honours list is decided on who supports who, meaning me being a Liverpool supporter is quite, quite irrelevant. One last thing - lots of people on these forums use the 'summer holiday' remark, or any number of the myriad of holidays available. Why is that? Yes, there can be an influx of users with decidedly too much time on their hands to contribute anything constructive, but not everyone falls into this category. You seem to place anyone with the misfortune of being younger than yourself as ignorant, or worse than yourself. Why is that? Does that not make you equally ignorant? Besides, age does not always equal wisdom, as I'm sure you know. It's awfully tiresome on these forums to have an honest opinion derided because of the colour of shirt you prefer.
I think you missed the little joke in your keenness to reply. You've even pointed out the irony like it's something you've noticed as a mistake. Oh well. My post was highly relevant to the thread, in which the merits of Beckham becoming a knight were (previous to your post) being discussed. If I have to spell it out for you - Beckham, IN MY OPINION is not the best choice for a knighthood when other candidates are IN MY OPINION better. Now, I've put certain things in capital letters just in case you can't grasp that my opinion of Dalglish might differ from your own. Of the quotation you provided, it certainly rolls off the tongue and there is a certain degree of truth to it, but then again if you sift a river long enough you may very well find gold. I don't think it's overly mutually exclusive to think that whilst age can bring wisdom it does not always do so. In fact, age can also lead to negative qualities (inflexibility etc). For the record, it's not 6 weeks at all. I live in Northern Ireland, so I enjoy an 8 week break. Once that's added to the study leave for my AS levels... Well, I'll have had around 10 weeks. Lucky for some I suppose. A 'summer job'? Do you live in a world were young people can only gain meaningful employment for the duration of their annual holiday? How quaint.
Notable England footballers without knighthoods: Bobby Moore Bobby Charlton Gordon Banks Peter Shilton Bryan Robson Or, to put it another way: Everyone whose played for England except Stanley Matthews That's why Beckham shouldn't be knighted above all - because so many players who did so much more for the England team haven't.
Absolute P**s take if this is correct, when you consider the amount of people who deserve it ten times more.
