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another fatty passes the buck

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by -jordan-, Jul 27, 2011.

  1. -jordan-

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14308975

    "Tom Condliff, 62, said he needed a gastric bypass operation to save his life after becoming obese due to the drugs he takes for long-term diabetes."

    a simple solution. eat less and get off your fat ass and exercise more often.

    enough of picking up the tab for people who get themselves in this situation and do absolutely nothing at all about it. take some responsibility for your actions and sort yourself out and less of the "oh the nhs will pay for it and i'll be sorted" mentality rife in many a fat ****.
     
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  2. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, if it was due to the drugs he had to take then there's not much he can do about it.
     
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  3. Toby

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    Did you even read that article?
     
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  4. -jordan-

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    stereo do me a fav and delete the other thread dunno why it made 2
     
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  5. -jordan-

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    if he knew weigh gain is a possible side effect, then lessen his calorie intake.
     
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  6. The Raging Oxter

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    But you've no idea what his calorie intake was. It might have been less than 2,000 to start with but the drugs left him unable to exercise.

    You haven't really thought this one through clearly jordan.
     
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  7. -jordan-

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    nonsense. even light exercise such as walking, which im sure he was capable of before becoming sickingly obese, would be beneficial. there's no way drugs alone contributed to him becoming obese. are you saying he could live on less than 1000 calories a day whilst taking the drugs and still gain weight?

    perfect example of someone taking no responsibility for their health and then expecting the nhs to clear up the mess.
     
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  8. jenthesaint1990

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    i understand and agree with the sentiment, but financially, it is cheaper for the NHS to give someone a gastric band/bypass than it is to foot the cost of keeping them fat until they die. true fact.
     
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  9. Glaswegian Holloway

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    You could always take the phrase 'morbidly obese' to the next level. If your BMI exceeds a pre-determined point, you are rounded up and killed.

    If that's not an incentive to diet, I don't know what is. Plus, imagine all the Americans you would get rid of!
     
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  10. The-Don

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    Who says calorie intake makes you fat?
     
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    I have type 2 diabetes brought on because for quite a lot of my 61 years i have drunk too much beer and not done enough exercise.
    Im now losing weight and i still eat well (but sensibly) and I still drink beer (but in moderation) I noiw exercise daily (but not to an uncomfortable degree) and I will eventually be able to give up the diabetes drugs I hope.
    The medication doesnt make you obese but a lifestyle of junk food and rest does.
     
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    ?
     
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  13. -jordan-

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    correct sir<ok>
     
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  14. The-Don

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    Well someone must have made it up at some point, could be a load of bollox to be honest!
     
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    I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.

    a great quotation from an excellent movie
     
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  16. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Sometimes you have to look a bit deeper into why someone has become medically obese. I read that some of you do not believe that drugs can make you put on weight. I can assure you they can. I am a couple of stone over weight which came about because I gave up smoking coupled with a few months later hip and knee problems. Which has taken just over two years to put right. Add to that arthritis which I have had for about 30 years. Since my operations I do go out to golf twice a week (as I did before) My normal Calorie intake is around 2000 a day am fairly active but I cannot loose the weight. I have been told it will be difficult for me to lose much weight simply because of the cocktail of drugs I have to take to slow my metabolic rate down for one as well as the the others for all sorts of things. The diabetic ones I should finish in a couple of months which will help.
    Incidentally I cannot lower my calorie intake down too much as that would cause other problems.
    So what I am suggesting is not to see this as crystal clear laziness as it really could be cocktail of genuine reasons. So making a judgement with out knowing or being involved with him, is not as clear cut.
     
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    My favourite film :) watched it loads of times
     
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  18. Magic Laudrup 11

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    Very true <ok>

    I've been on a whole variety of different drugs for the past 7 or 8 months and was told weight gain was a distinct possibility, regardless of calorie intake. The drugs can affect your metabolism and the way food is processed, and you can very quickly become overweight.

    Luckily I've been able to still exercise near enough every night of the week, and currently my weight is about 12 1/2 stone. If I wasn't able to exercise (like the guy in the article) then I could easily be closer to 17 or 18 stone.

    Read the article before posting here ripping the piss out of a guy with a serious illness
     
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