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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Sucky, Mar 14, 2016.

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should cannabis be legalized/decriminalised

  1. free da erb mon

  2. available for medicinal purposes only

  3. **** off you skag head

  4. decriminalise

  5. i cant remember the question

  6. oooh look brownies!

  7. Grow up and get a job!

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  1. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    No. If it went up in price then people would go back to buying it at the cheese for the original price. Most people won't suddenly agree to pay more.
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    South Park!?

     
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  3. Your kids must love that theory...
     
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  4. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    How much tax does IBWT pay? <yikes>
     
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  5. Rep :bandit:
     
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  6. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    Legalise.

    The idea cannabis is some monster is just nonsense.

    Alcohol is far, far worse for you and genuinely is a killer and costs the state miles more in both hospital fees as well as the anti-social behaviour associated with it.

    Anyone who has every smoked weed knows that cannabis relaxes you as opposed to alcohol which does the exact opposite. Society would be a lot nicer if people smoked weed.

    Yet only one is legal.

    Purely because of the tax the gov make and because it has been in our culture for a long time.

    There is always the "yes but it is supplied by criminal gangs" argument which is basically true - which is why it should be made legal and regulated. Put a ban on alcohol and you will get exactly the same thing (prohibition) - supply will always meet demand.

    Sadly this country is dominated by conservative folk (both in mind and politic) who are too ignorant and arrogant to debate the issue seriously.

    There is just hearsay regarding what they think is 'bad'.

    Those generations will eventually die out though and take their opinions with them.

    It will be legalised within 30 years.
     
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  7. ...and if you have too much you ain't doing **** <laugh>
     
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  8. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    Same with anything.

    I'm not a regular smoker of either tobacco or cannabis.

    I have smoked a bit of weed on and off in the past -particularly at university and from time to time since.

    Most weed smokers I know smoke in the evenings before they go to bed and on the weekends.

    Some do in the day and I wouldn't allow them to go to work stoned - just the same as with alcohol.

    But in your own time you should be allowed to smoke it if you please.
     
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  9. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    There is no debate.
     
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  10. Not really that straight forward with alcohol, that as different stages. Too much can see people become stupid, aggressive and intolerable. A bit more and they become unable to do anything. A bit more than that and is life risking.

    With cannabis, you feel relaxed but once you've had too much you feel too ill to bloody move <laugh>
     
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  11. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    You can't have too much. You can't OD on it. I've run out. Anyone got any spare?
     
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  12. Obviously <doh>
     
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  13. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    I've read this whole thread....and forgotten it all <whistle> now where did I put those brownies.......
     
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  14. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    You really would think that in 2016 we’d be long past weed legalisation opinion pieces.

    The financial, social and medical benefits of cannabis legalisation have been exhaustively documented, and a host of other liberal democracies are either legalising or decriminalising weed or at the very least discussing its legalisation or decriminalisation.

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    Smoking weed does NOT make you depressed or anxious, major study suggests

    And yet, the marijuana legalisation argument really gets scant attention here in Britain. Why so? It as if the public have lost the will to stamp their feet.

    The now largely impotent Liberal Democrats have become the first political party to officially state their support for the legalisation of weed, but I doubt that is enough to effect real change. What would be far more productive is for the ordinary people in favour of legalisation – and there are many, many of them – to take just a short relief of their British notions surrounding fuss-making and make their displeasure at the status quo clear as crystal so those with real power sit up and listen.

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    There are weed sommeliers called ‘ganjiers’

    There are many of them, almost all of which are riddled with holes, ranging from ‘weed is a gateway drug’ to something along the lines of ‘weed turns you into Gollum’.

    I could spend all day writing rebuttals to all these arguments, but that’s beyond the scope of this article, and in any case, there are people with strings of letters after their names that can refute those points with far more precision than I can, like Professor David Nutt, or Dr Sanjay Gupta.

    I would rather frame, in simple terms, the argument for why weed should be legal.

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    A recent report commissioned by the Liberal Democrats found that the U.K. could potentially raise in excess of £1billion a year from the taxation of weed sold in specialist dispensaries, and if we take a look across the pond we see that the American states which have legalised marijuana are booming.

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    An enterprising girl scout set up her cookie stall outside a weed dispensary

    Colorado, for instance, is now the fastest-growing economy in the U.S. and unemployment is at a six-year low.

    Do you remember that scene from Duck Tales in which Scrooge McDuck dives into a pool of gold coins? That’s Colorado, and the authorities have invested much of this cash in the hiring of mental health and social workers to treat anyone who does turn out to like the herb just a little too much, and to educate children on drug use.

    Moreover, they’re saving boatloads by not having America’s Finest drive around the state arresting college kids and artists for having a henry in their jeans.

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    Smoking weed DOESN’T make teenagers stupid after all, new twin study finds

    And there’s another pleasant surprise for Colorado: traffic fatalities are down and continuing to fall, which contradicts directly the predictions made by the killjoys before legalisation.

    The anti-legalisation brigade pointed to the presence of marijuana in the blood of some drivers involved in fatalities, but failed to appreciate that the marijuana metabolites these drivers were tested for at the roadside stay in the system for a long time after actual use of the drug. THC in the blood, a more reliable test of sobriety, is tested for too after the incident, but prohibitionists have tended to combine both sets of data when forming their argument.

    It has also been suggested that now people in American states where weed is legal substitute weed for alcohol when driving. Driving under the influence of either is obviously not advisable (and illegal) but the suggestion is that weed causes less impairment than booze.

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    epilepsy, anxiety, Alzheimer’s,multiple sclerosis, IBS, arthritis, Lupus, Parkinson’s and P.T.S.D. to name just a few.

    The argument that weed causes schizophrenia is a weak one at best, and it can only be said even by the most pessimistic of people that if you are genetically prone to schizophrenia or are prone to other schizotypal symptoms then weed can exacerbate those symptoms, and this is true of any number of substances.

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    Posh weed strains will soon have official labels of origin – just like on fine wines

    Everyone, in other words, wins.

    In the frankly ridiculous Britain of today, it is socially acceptable for a toddler to choose their gender but not acceptable for an adult to choose whether to smoke a plant that makes them feel a bit silly. I’m not the only one who recognises a shortcoming here.

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    Police stopped to help a man who ran out of fuel and found £50k worth of weed

    But we must start small. The advantages of the legalisation of weed are underpinned by such a hefty weight of evidence, and the downsides supported by such penetrable idiocies, that change must come soon.

    So if you’re reading this, Mr. Cameron and co. (which of course you won’t be), legalise weed, and for God’s sake get on with it.

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/15/legalise-weed-and-for-gods-sake-get-on-with-it-5754043/#ixzz433wEW1nC

    http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/15/legalise-weed-and-for-gods-sake-get-on-with-it-5754043/
     
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  15. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Very tacitly put <ok>
     
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  16. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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  17. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    You can't spot a pot smoker nowadays.

    Me and my mates was relaxing on the grass in the park one time and a woman came over and said I know what you are doing can I have some. We thought why not, weird thing was she had her husband and a baby with them. Was quite surreal.


    Just goes to show its all sorts who smoke now days not the stereotypes we hear, similar to the jokes about Liverpool that are stuck in the ****ing eighties!
     
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  18. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Sure you can.

    He's the one with a joint in his mouth.
     
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  19. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    Lol not quite but good effort.
     
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  20. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I've run out. Anyone got any spare?
     
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