I'm pro Europe, but for me the ideal scenario would be vote out to force another referendum to get a proper renegotiation because like most people I think the eu sucks in its present form. We need to be in to rebuild.
That makes me think immediately of standing in the sweltering heat on a cliff top and looking down at the inviting cold blue water, 300 feet below. Shall I, shan't I? For. It's going to be much cooler down there Against. I'm **** scared I might knock myself out on the way down and/or drown when I get there. Well, if I knock out the fear factor, it's a no brainer. PS. I can't swim
I would certainly go with this but I sadly could not see a re-negotiation as it would be akin to tearing up every treaty as it says we cannot afford anyone leave, tell us what you want and it's yours. As it is we have a lot of opt outs and are free of the Euro as it is, I bet many within the Euro could only dream at present of having their own currency and the opt outs and veto's we hold. The other side of the coin is that we could end up voting out, leaving and then having to beg to come back in 20 years and being allowed to without any opt outs, vetos and forced to accept the Euro.
Actually, on reflection, it's really nothing to laugh about. Very serious brain damage in many cases: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160308-the-curse-of-the-people-who-cant-stop-making-puns
Exactly right Bluesky - and not one sentence that could be labelled as a scare story in sight - well done
Blue, look what happened when Greece the poor man of Europe threatened to leave. If we left the eurozone is over, end of!
I found the opening music in the film "The Inside Man" to be very unusual as it was without doubt Indian. Turned out it was "Chaiyya Chaiyya", originally done in a Bollywood film with the one and only Shahrukh "King" Khan. Stand by for a very wild train ride: Unbelievable! Man, what a dish that leading lass is, wow! You know, I would find it hard to believe that no one fell off the flipping train while doing this. Wild, wild. You can't beat Bollywood............
Where would the world be without idiots? Gotta love 'em. Stuntman Ethan Roberts is the proud holder of the 60 foot blob jump, a feat he achieved in Nice last year. Now I don't know how much of an idiot Roberts is, but a couple of former rugby league footballers can certainly be counted as full blown **** wits. In an effort to replicate the jump for television, they became the "power plant" for the new attempt. They had to jump from a suspended platform hovering above what looked a bit like a giant air filled, yellow and red dick. Once they hit the bag, Roberts would be catapulted into the air. Somehow or other, one of the jumpers ended up in the drink. He earned three broken ribs and a punctured lung for his efforts. He was coughing up blood when they dragged him from the water. The story link below, and under that, the record effort in France in 2015. I love a good human interest story. Ohhh, and somebody needs to take a shovel to that woman at the end of the clip. http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...fter-tv-stunt-goes-wrong-20160310-gnfryw.html
****WIT FILE No. 2. A pro gun bimbo who brags about her 4 year old son's shooting prowess, has been shot in the back by her little fella. While touring down the highway, her son, not secured in a seat belt, reached down and took hold of a loaded semiautomatic 45 that just happened to lying on the back floor. A pretty face. Between the ears, An empty space. please log in to view this image
It is true that would could choose to quit anytime in the future but it is extremely unlikely that we would be granted the opportunity since the current Referendum is not being offered because of any government desire to leave; and the only opposition party favouring Brexit only has one MP. There is absolutely no prospect of proper reform within the EU. Cameron’s much vaunted renegotiation resulted in an offer that could be called “small beer” but I prefer Jacob Rees-Mogg’s “thin gruel”. Most of what Dave has been offered is time limited and largely meaningless; and we do not wield enough influence to derail The Project with just 73 of the 751 MEPs in a system of qualified majority voting.
The way the argument is going at the moment it does seem like both camps are fighting in the other’s territory. The “Stronger In” camp have already been renamed “Project Fear” because they cannot make a case for what a wonderful success the EU has become so instead they are all doom and gloom about the consequences of the World’s fifth largest economy going alone and reducing the “World’s largest tariff-free trading area” to second place behind the United States. There was some idiot on the Daily Politics arguing that we were going to get £20bn in EU farming and rural money from Brussels during this Parliament but he forgot his numbers and it then became £200bn; which some BBC researcher then went and looked up on the government’s website and found to actually be less than £16bn. We in the Brexit camp can quote the known facts about the EU (although it has to be said that the continual quoting of dodgy “£50m a day” type numbers is a bad tactic that alienates potential converts – see Douglas Carswell on last week’s Sunday Politics) but we also have the three arguments in our favour that the “In” camp dare not mention – the EU is largely democratically unaccountable when it comes to policy, we cannot have controlled immigration whilst we remain (Dave has conveniently forgotten his Tory manifesto commitment to immigration at tens of thousands); and how can we be more secure in a borderless state where terrorists can transport their Kalashnikovs and bombs between countries unhindered? I have been in the Brexit camp for more than twenty five years, so I am unashamedly biased and I never believed in that Christ bloke.
Carney made a bit of a mess of his visit to the Treasury Select Committee as he had to squirm his way out of losing the statistical argument by arguing that British economic growth was greater between 1948 and 1973 than it has been since because of post World War II growth – something that was undoubtedly true across Europe but was initially funded by the Marshall Plan that took most of the rest of the century to pay back. No chance of another Referendum. The question on 23rd June has been framed as Stay or Leave, the EU elite have already indicated that Dave’s deal expires the second that we vote Leave; and if Dave wins Hell will freeze over before he offers another vote. I have nothing against Europe per se, it is just the E.S.S.R. (aka E.U.) that irks me.
Absolutely no chance of us begging to be back in – the biggest pro Europe parties here are the Scottish Nationalists (one country minority Party who would get Independence and rejoin in a heartbeat), the Liberal Democrats (only shared power thanks to the student protest vote) and the Green Party (current home of the student protest vote). I saw the Green Party’s sole MP Caroline Lucas advocating staying in the EU on the grounds that women would lose their maternity rights and workers would not get paid holidays (no such thing) if we left. How feeble.
Never mind the Referendum, the Eurozone may be dead long before June. Clearly inspired by Mark Carney, the ECB chairman ‘Super’ Mario Draghi has cut the ECB interest rate to zero, the ECB deposit rate to minus 0.4 per cent and increased QE by 20 billion Euros a month. It seems that with the Eurozone growth forecast reduced to just 0.1 per cent for this year, they have decided to just throw money around and hope that some business will borrow some of it for investment or some nation’s people will rush out on a spending spree. The Euro actually strengthened on the day, making Eurozone exports more expensive – definitely not what the doctor ordered. I would not want to have any shares in any of the Eurozone banks as they cannot be bailed out if this gamble goes pear-shaped.