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Alex Ferguson did say that on Sky on the final day of the 09/10 season.Pure arrogance.
However Rafa Benitez got ridiculed in 2009 when he said ''I will congratulate Manchester United,but not him''.Now thats what I call media bias.
Skylarker.

Well said.

 

Really had this thread been discussed before, I hadn't noticed Again I ask you, who decides who is passionate about Liverpool football club then?

 

"Rafa Benitez got ridiculed in 2009 when he said ''I will congratulate Manchester United,but not him''.
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..........nah, Benitez was ridiculed, full stop!!!
No need for specific examples!!!

 

The fan does

You either are passionate or you are not passionate. Please tell me you're not that stupid and need me to explain it further?

 

The "next year is our year" stuff has always been something rival fans use against us as a jibe, so now some of us use it in an ironic way.
I'd have thought that was obvious- perhaps someone needs to devise a bloody great <IRONY> smiley to help those who can't work it out from the context?
For those citing the earlier article by Nips- look at the sub-heading.

http://www.not606.com/showthread.php...ball-Liverpool​

 

Saintanton.
I highlighted the word ''How'' which merely suggests that next year could be our year and not suggesting that next year will be our year.Notice the difference.

 

Show your figures because others said 2nd. Period. But 2nd or 3rd is a point or two. At one stage we were 1st. But there was little to play for at the end of the season so we tailed off. No biggie. Utd lost 3 games in 5 but still won the title.

So if results go exactly the same way this season we'll come 6th. But you were a year younger a year ago. How come you aged if nothing in the universe ever changes?

Sorry but I'm pretty confident your confidence is flawed and you're just flapping your gums.

Well, boring anyway.

Which every wum "realistically" predicted wouldn't happen this season, what with Tevez all upset and Balotelli being so lame, Bellamy was their best player, Mancini is too defensive, Barry is ****, their defence needs strengthening, blah blah blah.

He was only good in that 2nd half of the season and he wasn't our best midfielder, Lucas was.

Yes, you were poor. Probably around 6th. You will stay 6th forever. You haven't improved over the course of this thread. In fact, you've actually gotten worse. Just being realistic.

Spearing still growing, Aquilani possibly leaving, Gerrard ageing and us buying for the future? Blimey, sounds suspiciously like a plan. But three years ago you'd have been talking about our lack of depth. You now have Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher, Hargreaves and Gibson. Not much competing going on there, then.

Neither would Mourinho or Fergie or any manager who came in and slumped next season. If Dalglish murdered somebody he would be the first to murder somebody. And if he came in and won the title in his 2nd season he wouldn't be the first to come in and win the title in his 2nd season. So what's your point?

Oh please. You're reaching. Everything about the club is positive and looks secure to stay that way for some seasons yet. The players are happy. That's not going to change anytime soon. We're not Chelsea with a squad who sulk at the sacking of a manager's assistant.

I seriously doubt you're right. Chelsea, Arsenal and Utd are all rebuilding. Spurs look like leaking players and who knows with City, the team wums said wouldn't break into the top 4? The FFP rules are getting closer - Utd have already declared a moratorium on any further spending and I've little doubt it's because of wages being asked for. The league could be even more unpredictable.

And no guarantee they won't. Can you guarantee that Anderson can step up? Because he's the type you're going to be relying on, according to your manager. I'd rather rely on young Flanagan, thanks very much.

Yes, they have no right to do that despite the constant stream of unsupported contentions from non-Liverpool fans here who think they're just being "realistic."

 

MFG.

 

There was little to play for at the end of the season? Funny that because had you beaten Tottenham, you would have moved above them. You were 3rd in the form table, not 2nd. Period. It is fairly logical to suggest that the teams with the strongest squads and who occupied the top 3 positions last year will again be the top 3. Unless, of course, you are suggesting that United, Chelsea and City do not possess the 3 strongest squads. So, how is my confidence flawed then? Lucas was your best player? No, he wasn't. Your fans voted him as your player of the year out of sympathy, not based on performances. He was his usual mediocre self.

 

Man City,Chelsea and Uniteds squads are so superior to Liverpools and they are so superior to Liverpool.How is it then Liverpool picked up 12 points out of 18 against them.Explain that one.

 

How come if Liverpool are so great they have failed for 2 decades to win the title? Explain that one.

 

For the Europa. Like I said, little to play for.

Again with the unsupported contentions. SHOW YOUR FIGURES. Sheesh.

Define 'strongest'. Every week those strongest teams should beat the weakest teams. And yet they don't. Oh, your world has turned upside down and every certainty you held dear has dissolved.

Under Rafa Liverpool had the 5th highest resources but regularly finished above Arsenal in 2nd or 3rd.

I think you're using fairy logic.

It's flawed because it's full of lazy and unsupported contentions.

Yes, he was.

No, they didn't.

No, he wasn't.

Period, realistically.

 

Man City did the double over United in 07-08. They didn't have a stronger squad though, did they? So, you think Liverpool's squad is better than those of the 3 clubs I have predicted for the top 3?

 

For someone who speaks in such a condescending manner on football matters, it is mildly amusing that you think Lucas was your best midfielder last year.

There is nothing lazy about claiming that United, City and Chelsea have the best 3 squads. They finished in the top 3 places last year, which suggests that there is some evidence to support this. And you still haven't denied it, preferring to brush it aside.

So you didn't want to come 5th? Really? King Kenny and his players seemed to be stating otherwise at teh time.

Under Rafa, Liverpool had the 5th highest resources? Unfounded. Now why don't YOU produce figures to back up this outlandish claim.

 

My point is that having a stronger squad is a irrelevant.Man City have a squad that is light-years ahead of Man Uniteds yet United won the league.
Man United are better managed however.I was dismissed by stating that Liverpool can speed up the process for success because they are managed excellently.

 

I really despair for Irish education some time.

 

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2010-2011/custom-table

21st January to 30th June. Chelsea 1st, Utd 2nd, Liverpool 3rd.

Congratulations, you have a strong midfield. That wasn't my point. My point was that you are weak in defence, and ridiculously dependent on Suarez in attack. What if Suarez gets injured or goes five months without scoring like Rooney did? Will you cope as well at Utd did last season? Or will it be another excuse for failure?

And no we don't have Hargreaves in midfield any more. Good call

That form in one season means nothing in the next. So the predictions that because your form was so good at the start of last season means you must do well next season are pointless.

"Everything about the club is positive". Sounds like June 2005 to me. Or June 2009.

Utd have declared a moratorium on any further spending? Source? Wasn't it Dalglish who said you wouldn't be signing any more players until you'd sold some?

I'm not trying to guarantee it. But then he didn't step up last season and we still won the league. And we have four other players who can play that position if he doesn't, who covers for Flanagan if Kelly gets injured? Carragher again?

Realistic to say 4th place in a nailed on certainty in what you just described as the most unpredictable PL in years? Hmmmm......methinks you ties yourself in knots there.

 

Ah, pre-season optimism is a wonderful thing.
When we can look forward to righting all the wrongs of last season, see our ideal first XI win all the points we stupidly dropped last season, and make some space in the trophy cabinet for the inevitable additions.

Then we get to the end of September.
Damn we dropped a few points we shouldn't have, our key players have niggly injuries, our star striker is out for 3 months, and that guy we signed isn't all we hoped for. Still, we'll be strong in the run up to Xmas and we always pick up after the New Year...

and so it goes...

 

Citys squad is light-years ahead of Uniteds,only an idiot would suggest otherwise.City dumped better players than some of the ****e Baconface gave new contracts to ie Carrick and Anderson.
Rooney didn't score because he was injured.He didn't score because according to himself he had ''personal problems'' only a brain-dead nitwit like him would call shagging whores when your wife is up the spout a personal problem.

 

And City's squad contains the likes of Barry, Richards, Wright-Phillips, Džeko, Bridge, etc. Again quality debating point KPR.