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Off Topic Does the Chairman and Board expect Curt to do a Monk?

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  1. abertawejack

    abertawejack Member

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    Are the Chairman and Board showing poor judgement in expecting Alan Curtis to continue until the end of the season? Curt is doing a great job but again the Chairman are not playing fair to him by placing the spotlight and pressure on him? It worked with Monk after some good fortune and does not follow that it can happen again. What players are going to sign for a club on loan or otherwise, if the club is in 16th place and has a stand in Manager? We will be up against the likes of Sam Allardyce and call him what you want Steve McClaren,who has varied experience. Notwithstanding the Managers the teams are equipped for one hell of a fight.So I just hope that the Chairman and Board are up to sqeaky bum time? It is time to get a move on by installing an experienced Manager now. It would be a bonus if his name can attract a striker who knows the offside rule and is able to score goals. Right I have had my moan and I hope we are dug out of this hole.
     
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  2. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    My concern is can we attract a striker with no manager, languishing in 17 position? I was expecting Rodgers to be a temporary manager until the summer, but that hasn't happened. I think it's very unfair to put Curtis in this position, but I knew if he did reasonably well our board would put on him, it's a massive gamble and risk, and might well go badly wrong. We will just have to suck it up and see how things develop in January.


    What I am also disappointed with is how Huw Jenkins has kept the fans in the dark these last three weeks or so, with not so much as even a whisper of what's happening, even Curtis has been kept in the dark by his own admission, and I'm starting to think our board are making it up as they go along, clearly when Monk was sacked, they had no one in mind, and I shudder to think what striker we will get, but there is nothing we can do, bit of a farce developing here this season all round, just hope our team spirit pulls us through, it's now all hands to the deck as we navigate some turbulent waters...........<ok>
     
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  3. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Even if we get a new manager I doesn't guarantee a striker will come in because of it .
    If we aren't able to get a striker in , who would your rather run the team we have now ? .
    I feel we already have a very good group of players that were mismanaged badly .
    Not playing Rangel , Britton , Routledge at all and sitting Fernandez in favour of Bartley for his last three games in charge was inexcusable .
    Playing the same 10 men without results , while the rest of the squad was growing rust showed me Monk was totally out of his depth.Instead of replacing Monk after the Norwich game , showed me that Huw was out of his depth .
    The only thing Jenkins was ever good at was picking managers who could create a team and bring in money making transfers that the team could use and sell on at a profit . That stopped with the hiring of Garry Monk .
    I agree that what Monk and Jenkins piled on Curtis , in their stupidity, was totally unfair ...but what's done is done .
    Huw was in a mass panic when he finally sacked Monk , with a frantic schedule against top teams coming up .
    So off he went , leaving Curtis to pick up the pieces , trying to find a new manager .
    But any manager he had in mind took a look at our situation and didn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole.
    But while Huw was panicking , Curtis and Adams started turning the players around , all the players not just the " 10 " .Slowly , Jenkins started looking less at possible managers to hire and started looking at what Curtis and Adams were doing .
    Pretty well was a dream come true for Jenkins because he was in deep sh:t .
    Jenkins and the board have seen enough to know that Curtis and Adams are our best chance out of the mess they created , and even better in the world of Jenkins , cheap .
    I think bringing someone in now may take the momentum and trust Curtis and Adams have built .
    Keeping Curtis may be the only thing Jenkins gets right this season imo ....I realize it's not everyone's opinion but I feel very strongly that Jenkins is doing the right thing now to shore up all the wrong things previous .
     
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    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    The silence is defending from the board.

    As fans I think they should at least issue a statement on what the hell is going on!!

    Is Curtis staying in charge till seasons end, or is there a new man coming in.

    Stop treating us with contempt!!!
     
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  5. Terror ball

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    On the day we sacked Laudrup I posted on here that in the future (the year 2025+) when fans of other clubs spoke to me about Swansea's Premier League era and inevitably asked me the question "Where did it all go wrong?"
    I would point to that decision and the shambolic nature of it's execution...and the spite, nasty gossip and downright lies emanating from the club at that time...as the fork in the road where we took the wrong direction.

    It is looking increasingly likely that this will come to pass.



    That decision, the way it was executed and what subsequently followed (the mass exodus of players and the appointment of the ringleader, a particularly thick individual, as manager) ;
    - Cheapened our brand
    - made us look like a parochial little xenophobic backwater
    - Cost us a hell of a lot of money
    - ushered in the jobs for the boys era
    - signaled the desertion of our football principles in favour of points at all cost desperate "cling on to the Premier for all our lives" football
    (I'll stop the list there as I don't want to bore on...)


    Jenkins and co. undertook a search for a new manager post Monk.
    The foreign managers have seen what happened to Laudrup, I would bet most if not all who we approached will have contacted him or his coaching staff to find out what really happened.
    They will have also assessed that our waffle about our football principles is bullshit as when we were under a small amount of pressure both the fans and the board panicked and replaced the manager. The replacement was then lauded for boring, turgid, pragmatic football.
    It also will have not escaped their notice that Laudrup was sacked despite;
    Winning a trophy,
    Securing a top 10 finish,
    Guiding us into the last 32 of the Europa League at the first time of asking, (a campaign he was not even allowed to see through.....****ing criminal)
    Guiding us to the 5th round of the FA cup
    and
    being in 12th position in the Premier League.

    They will have looked at our club, looked at the wages, looked at the budgets involved and thought "**** me they were performing very close to their absolute limit when they got rid of Laudrup....can I better that?"


    The domestic players, ex-players, pundits, media etc. bought all of our bullshit propaganda wholesale.
    They loved the idea of Garry Monk riding to the rescue and the romantic notion that we would be loyal to an ex-captain who had played in all 4 divisions of our rise.
    Sacking him at Christmas has lost them as well.


    We have in effect poisoned the brand.
    We are not very popular anymore and an unattractive club to prospective managers...
    ....and we did it to ourselves. It is a crying ****ing shame.
     
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    ....and as for the notion that we should wait around for Brendan Rodgers, in case he would fancy it in the summer, people must have lost their ****ing minds!!!


    Thank **** for Alan Curtis.
    C'mon Curt save this ****ing sinking ship!
    I hope he is handsomely rewarded for it if he does.
    He has already shown more nous than Garry Monk in just a handful of games.
    He has shown he can make intelligent well thought out decisions.
    Where the **** would we be without him
     
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    I agree with most of the comments here. We look amateurish in the extreme and it seems as if Jenkins is always looking for the cheap option. He has a track record of getting appointments right, with some exceptions, and it's crucial to our future that he gets that particular head on rather than the one that caused him to go bankrupt.
     
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  8. abertawejack

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    What I fear is that the Chairman and the Board through good fortune have punched above their weight for several seasons, which we should be exterely grateful for. Now I am afraid, they may well have come unstuck partly because of behind the scenes turmiol?I really hope I am wrong and Huw gets it right again. Whatever comes, one thing is for sure Swansea City (Our Team) needs every shred of support. Stop leaving the Stadium early and get behind the Jacks.
     
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  9. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Our manager and striker hunt aren't a lot different .Do we pass our first 7 choices in either , because they don't want to chance are situation , and take the 8th.....all in the sake of change .
    Jenkins and Monk put us in a situation where no matter what we do , it's a risk .
    Curtis , Gomis , Eder and Emnes is the best risk in my eyes .A lot of people are holding Curtis accountable for the mess Jenkins and Monk created without actually looking at what Curtis has done in 5 games .
    Curtis is the last thread of who we were and what we have left and how to get the best out of it left imo , getting rid of what him and Adams are doing at this point for someone 8th in line on our wish list, is the biggest risk of all .
    As for a striker , if we can get one , I'd rather one looking up at us , rather than one looking down like Austin or Remy ..just an opinion .
     
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  10. abertawejack

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    Ex Roofer I sincerely hope that Curtis is not seen as the fall guy here, he is far to good for that. The club needs to speak to the supporters to update us on this debacle. Certainly if rumours are correct it appears fairly toxic behind the scenes.
     
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    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    We have a trust representative on the board, for what purpose I ask?
     
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    Not only do we need a new fulltime manager and striker but I'm seriously beginning to think we need a top class new chief executive as well.
     
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  13. seabreeze

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    Nothing we can do about the, behind the scene "Toxicity " abertawejack , we been kept in the dark about most things the past few seasons and I suspect it won't change anytime soon .
    And I wish a new manager was in place after the Norwich game and Curtis was still doing his old job .
    But the Norwich game is a long time ago and we must accept the fact that no matter what we do now , there are risks involved .I'm happy the way things went over the Christmas Melee , not as happy as I would have been if we got a new manager after Norwich , but happy as I can be .
    Managers don't want to put their reputations on the line in our position but will be coming out of the woodwork in the summer if we manage to stay up . And strikers will be leery also because of our precarious position , and if we do find a suitable one , he will cost an arm and a leg .
    If we can ditch Shelvey and Gomis and even Ayew in the window and hang on to everyone else then maybe we can "Overpay " for a striker , but only if. Imo .
    I totally understand you're stand on getting a new manager and striker , my problem is it maybe slim pickens on who will make themselves available , and will be way , way overpriced .
    I trust Curtis and our current team to get us through ok , it's the risk with less resistance imo .
     
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    The top guys have made themselves millions since we have been in the premiership so whatever happens they will not be losers. Without being able as a premiership club to attract quality managers and have one installed two weeks ago says it all.......Curtis is going to struggle big time trying to keep us up and jinx and the board don't look to give a toss. We have had one minor board member quit to do other things already and i wont be surprised one bit if others are looking to cash in and go including the Morgans.......I think the passion has gone at board level to what it was and many will leave the sinking ship while still at the top......We needed a manager and a striker weeks ago and nothing is remotely happening. Keep this up and we wont survive...
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    You don't mind if I don't take your word for that dai ,Your Crystal balls have been a little off in the past .Your support instead of your dismality would be a welcome surprise.
    Myself , I'm feeling pretty confident in the squad we have , now that there being managed well .Proof will be in the pudding though .
     
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    Agreed, bearing in mind Season tickets are now up for renewal, they are asking people to spend an awful lot of money for next season having no idea where we will be. I accept some will continue to attend no matter what. I have renewed mine, but many may not and wait and see what happens. Even if they come out and say Curtis is here till the end of the season at least as fans we will know where we are.
     
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    Managing them well is not the same as being able to win games. Curtis will struggle compared to a manager who is more experienced and with the fixtures we have at the end of the season i cant see Curtis being anywhere good enough. I think we will already be relegated well before the end anyway so it wont matter.....
     
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  18. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    I think this situation is very unfair on Curtis, and what if he doesn't get 6 points from the next two games? It's a ridiculous situation to drop on the shoulders of a club faithful they fully new has never ever wanted the managers job for obvious reasons, the guys semi-retired for goodness sake...<ok>
     
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    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Thats what I hate about this, Curtis is doing the job out of loyalty to the club and fans. He's been put in an impossible position, Huw and the board should hang there heads in shame for putting this Albatros around his neck.
     
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    Curtis is the only person we got that has some knowledge of the managers job so we don't have any choice unless jinx wants to step up from No2 to No1....<laugh>
     
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