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Ayew and Swansea...

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by seabreeze, Dec 26, 2015.

  1. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Nothing against Ayew personally Whitey , he was a great signing financially regardless if he fits our system or not.
    Now that he's here , he a commodity. I just don't want to spend any more time trying to work the team positioning around him any more.
    I'm pretty sure he wouldn't mind moving on to Liverpool or another big club and I want the money we will have left over when we buy him out of his contract ...win win ....it's just good business , something we've left behind for a few seasons now
     
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  2. PGFWhite

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    But why didn't the big clubs want him when he was available? Perhaps they had watched him and weren't interested.
     
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  3. swanseaandproud

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    The problem we have is that we have a certain way of playing and it has served us well but i really think its time now that Jenkins allows us to try something new and not ditch all of out philosophy but make some changes to it, First of all he must stop interfering with team selection and let the manager decide who plays and who are the players we need. Ayew, shelvey and even Gomis are very good players in their own right and have proved it but they struggle to constantly play to the system Jenkins insist we play. We have a very good squad of players but as the seasons roll on by we bring in these players thinking because of their repetition at other clubs that it will make the squad look stronger and on paper it does, but in reality these new players are finding it hard to play to Jenkins philosophy of how the game should be played....It's time now for the board to bring in an established boss and let him have the full reign of how we play with no interference from upstairs at all....put all our trust into the manager after all that's what we pay him to do...
     
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  4. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Who says he wanted a big club to start out with , he could have played almost where he wanted imo , but choose us .
    I think Gomis had something to do with him coming to us , read it somewhere along the way .
    Ayew is quality , for the right club , and I think that club is Liverpool .
    I expect him to go there in the window for 17 or 18 million , if Klopp is still in charge
     
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  5. Terror ball

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    So Curtis picked the team and formation when Laudrup was manager...
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    Jenkins picked the team and formation when, the subject of your wet dreams, Garry Monk was manager...




    ....what a ****ing mess Garry Monk has left us in. What a ****ing joke of a "manager"

    Merry Christmas, have a ****ing ****e year! <laugh>
     
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    It's all gone quiet on the Garry Monk front. It's almost as if he was never here. I wish. <laugh>
     
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  7. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    In the first 2 interviews I seen of Monk ,the first one through that manager association group he was on again about how he took over, 2 points from relegation with 13 games to play , and saved us ....I almost parked my groceries all over the computer .
    In the 2nd interview he was on about wanting to manage right away again at the top level even if he had to go across the channel .
    Hey Garry , maybe you should work on getting all your managerial badges and such ....like everyone else, first .
     
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    Cracking CV he's got for managing on the continent isn't it?

    Coaching badges: erm, no
    European Languages: that'll be a no again.
    Network: ok if they want to sign Jonjo Shelvey, Kyle Naughton and Neil Taylor....can't see it somehow
    Experience as a pro: Could teach your players how to dig in for the point at Barnsley.
    Experience as a manager:
    Took a successful small Premier League team who played an attacking brand of continental style football and turned them into turgid, boring dross.
    Alienated all the Premier League proven Spanish stars and shipped them out ASAP for prices nowhere near their value.

    Was signed a few top French based players.....
    Gomis - confidence destroyed, attitude problem not dealt with, wanted out at every transfer window
    Tabannou - alienated, wants out
    Ayew - despite his ability Monk was not able to find an effective role for him and has since hinted that Ayew was unsettling Monk's ship

    Was signed a couple of South Americans....
    Montero - reduced to a substitute
    Fernandez - Dropped for KYLE BARTLEY!!

    Was signed Gylfi Siggurdsson.....who is scoring like **** for Iceland, the main reason why they will be at this summer's European Championships....reduces him to closing defenders down and the odd speculative free-kick.

    Was signed a budding Swedish international as a back up keeper and doesn't play him at all despite Fabianski's dramatic loss of form a couple of months ago.

    Was signed budding British talents such as Cork (benched) and Grimes (not given a look in).

    Was given £5m to sign a back up striker....£5m quid on back up?! unheard of at Swansea.....he signs Eder and then doesn't play him.

    etc.




    Somehow I can't see a queue hammering at his door.

    Best he does his badges and goes and coaches Portsmouth or someone.....and he will fail there too because, frankly, he is not very bright.
     
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  9. DragonPhilljack

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    Maybe Monks very good first season went to his head? because other than the first month this season, our game imploded spectacularly, and clearly he had lost the respect of the players, whatever they stated, but the first bad omen was his attitude to club legend Leon, telling him he was no longer required, basically set off alarm bells for me, then Dyer was sent out, and now the rest is history, shame that both Monk and Laudrop lost the plot in their second season, though it could be argued that Laudrop lost it after the Cup in his first season.........<ok>
     
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  10. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    He's left a lasting legacy so expect his name up on the next batch on the wall of fame
     
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    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Only as a player matt
     
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    I see Andre picked up third place in the African Player of the Year awards, a good effort in a pretty dissapointing year for him. A heart-breaking loss in the African Cup of Nations final via penalty shoot-out, followed by a move to Swansea which started so well beginning to falter somehwat. His energy and enthusiasm cannot be questioned but we really need some goals from him now, hopefully starting against Sunderland!
     
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    Highest league finish, record PL points total, 3 consecutive wins on the bounce v Utd and the double over Arsenal. Regardless of what happened after, that is quite an achievement in itself and will always be remembered.
     
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    I think a partnership between him and Gylfi is starting to develop nicely. You could see v Utd that they understood each other, it was just that final ball that left them down.
     
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    ......and the fact that Smalling cleaned Ayew out all afternoon!
     
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    Tbh with only one up front and the formation we played, it was easy to mark Ayew out of the game as there was nobody else on the pitch stretching the Utd defence to create space. The system would have suited a more physical player a la Bony who could out muscle those defenders. That is why we must go with Barrow and Routs/Montero from the off against Sunderland to stretch their defences and leave gaps in behind them for Gylfi to exploit for Ayew or whoever we play up top.
     
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    A minor issue in the grand scheme of things!........ <laugh>
     
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    That's right, he couldn't hold the ball up. Gomis came on and fair play to him held the ball up and provided the platform for our excellent last 10 minutes.
     
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  19. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    And he should have with what he was given .if he played Britton more we might have made it back to Europa .
     
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